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Old 02-29-2012, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am trying to find out more information on bloodlines or dogs that are known for their nosework. WGWL, Czech it doesn't matter. If you are looking at pedigrees, what dogs do you like to see b/c they were known for their nosework amongst other things. **** if a kennel is known for it that is fine as well.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I heard that czech lines arent as good at tracking than wgwl because theyre too suspicious of the enviroment around the enviroment and dont often have tunnel vision. I found it on this forum or alpinek9 but I dont remember, sorry :s but the. But then Again a lot of dogs are from czech lines and require a good nose for tracking bombs
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have heard that Lord Gleisdreieck was a great tracker. My WL female went back to him and though she has some nerve issues that prevented her from being a strong dog in protection, her tracking is naturally the best of all my GSDs so far. I mean, the end result is not that different (not saying my boys are bad trackers) but she's just a natural, very calm, correct pace, methodical, focused. She didn't really need training per se, you can stick her on one end of the track and literally sit back and watch, then go pick her up at the other end.
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My dogs breeder has a couple dogs down from Lord and they are natural trackers. Very neat to watch!
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I agree that Lord has always been a good resource for tracking and hunt drive.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Opps i made a typo lol. Tunnel vision on my phone what i meant was that tracking dogs are probably Easier to find in wgwl
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Are we talking about strong hunt drive or the ability to perform Schutzhund tracks well? I think the two are not exactly the same though there is overlap.

A lot of the dogs bred by Julia Priest at Sontausen are known for their tracking ability and quite a few are in SAR homes. We have had two Lark nephews on the team (one is gone because he was a very strong dog with a handler who had no control of him-) and Beau is a Lark grandson.

A lot of SAR folks, myself included, have also gravitated towards Czech lines as we have found good nosework in those dogs (yes I know Juila is not Czech and has some interesting lines in some of her dogs - some old Swedish , some West German, even some smattering of Amlines. I have been told Grim z PS brought a good bit of that. I have seen some very balanced Czech dogs who are not overly suspicious and with decent enough thresholds that they don't just go off and perceive a threat not there.

Lord, absolutely, but also I have heard favorably about Mink through Crok and hunt drive.....
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Lord is a good source but not the only -- there are many many more - this is an area that I am known for .
look at this blog Birch-Bark Hill -- All of them superior tracking , "Spook" , TRUST one of 18 dogs in North America with Urban Track excellent, Blast a new up and comer TD , which was too easy for him, (he should have started with TDX level) ready for Urban, Kira -- .
In the DDR Tino Felsenschloss , the OLD Grafental going back to Bodo with Cay Echoberg (Edi Bibbertal), DDR with Bernd Lierberg
Racker Itztal, Uwe Kirschental (Asko Schloss Zweibruggen et al) , Chip Kirschberghoff- Castro Grundschnelligkeit and progeny -
I would include Fero Zeuterner Himmelreich,

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I have seen some exceptional tracking dogs coming from Czech/DDR lines, Mink, Fero, Racker (as Carmen mentioned), Körbelbach/Bungalow and then dogs from the same lines that don't have strong natural tracking ability. I think people like Julia get the hunt drive and natural tracking ability because they pay attention to it when breeding and maintain this ability in their dogs and in their breeding program.
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test - prepared detailed post which when submitted was refused for a "security code" yet seconds later I could send this "test" - now I don't have the time to repost --till later
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