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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 23
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Hello folks,
Mid summer, early fall I will be looking to purchase a young female to add to my group. I'm posting here as just 1 avenue to acheive my goal. I know that some breeders keep a pup from a litter to test is workability, in an effort to assure they're producing working lines and then, find it a home. What I'm looking for: 6-16 months old, who's hips are already checked; 4 generations of stability; Black (preferred) or VERY dark sable (that carries the black gene); Strictly working DDR lines; No extensive training necessary; References; I know some 'kennels' have several lines of dogs (ie slovak, hungarian, czech), I am not looking for a mix, I'm looking for DDR. I am a discrete breeder in NW PA with exceptional animals (in my opinion) (Tom vom Haus Pixner daughter and Walko vom Grafental son and a Sven vom Grafental granddaughter) and soon I will be able to start working my own. These are the lines I work with right now. They're not too hard for the buyers at present, although, Tom's daughter is quite the tough bitch and several of her pups are carefully placed. She was a handful! The combination of her and my male, make such wonderful pups. This is a work in progress, so critical emails will be ignored. I'd prefer it be another discrete breeder such as myself who has put the painstaking time, money and heart into the breed and it's standard. I've been at this 9 years and have seen/heard just about everything. I've done my homework and I know what I'm looking for. I produce 1 quality litter per year and want to simply find another female, withouth going through the drama of raising it, only to find I cannot breed due to hips not passing. I paid 3k to get a female pup directly from Germany and then couldn't even breed her. I can be contacted at MzTartie@yahoo.com with anything that might be available at that time. Thank you, Sharon PS - Granit (Dad left), 2 pups from a July '11 litter (center rear), Mari (Mom right) and in the forefront, Grisha (Wyatt Von Hena-C daughter), pic taken on Thanksgiving during the Packers game ![]() I'm getting there! |
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Crowned Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Central, NY
Posts: 3,706
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What exactly is a "discrete"breeder? I feel like I'm on an elicit dating site!
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Crowned Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 7,088
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sorry - most responsible breeders in the will not sell you the dog you describe for the purpose of it becoming a money making breeding animal. BTW - Tom v h Pixner is NOT DDR - but then, you may be looking for the DDR female to produce mixed lines so you can get those dark sables to market for the pet market.
Make wonderful pups???? are your pups being PROVEN to be wonderful via judges and titles? Or as your post suggests, you are breeding solely for the pet market and they are wonderful pets? Without understanding the character that comes through training a dog to the levels of IPO1-3, and having the dog evaluated by many judges and neutral parties, a breeder is merely producing puppies, marketable only on the strength of their parents or grandparents. Discrete here in my mind is just flying under the radar..... Lee
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Knighted Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,929
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I love Tom v h Pixner, and having owned a Sven v Grafental granddaughter, I think that the haus Pixner lines compliments the Grafental lines. I have a Sid vh Pixner puppy laying at my feet. He would definitely compliment my DDR female(who happens to be a Reiko v Hena-C daughter), if she was not retired. BTW, she has produced 4 police service dogs, I don't know if that's pet quality but the officers think they have working dogs. She has no titles. Good Luck in your quest....you seem to be thinking this thing out and trying to produce solid dogs. Hope you find your right match.
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Old Lyme, CT USA
Posts: 14,237
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your dogs are gorgeous !! I'm a sucker for those dark dawgs
![]() I have a Reiko v hena c granddaughter, she's alot of fun, love the lines. Good luck in your endeavor
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Crowned Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,630
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I have a Reiko daughter -she's not titled either-but she gets along with all other dogs is wonderful with children-very trustworthy dog-she's a beautiful bi-color-And she is 11 and in good health -think radar would be a great name for a dog
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 23
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Thank you for all the positive feedback! I actually have 2 Wyatt von Hena-C daughters, I just haven't had the little black girls hips evaluated yet. Granit does balance out my bi-color female (Tom's daughter). It's still growing pains for me, but some of my pups are training. Not as many as I'd like :-)
Thank you again and I'll keep checking back! Now for Lee...make money? That's a joke. If you're making money at this, you're doing it for all the wrong reasons and mass producing (which is exactly why I cut my losses with those 'big kennels' and have found a connection to the Grafental/Ludwigseck dogs out of Germany), but then, I knew I'd get responses like yours. I won't take it any further with you and I hope you'll do the same. Have a nice day. Last edited by ShepLady11; 01-10-2012 at 05:37 PM. |
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Master Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 918
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To make money off one litter a year she would need to sell the (assuming 6 pups) for like 20,000 a piece! If this was her sole job...hahaha I'm pretty sure that money isn't the purpose here.
I think you sound like a reputable breeder from your original post. Are your puppies sold to pet homes, working homes, or a mix of both? |
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Elite Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 1,763
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ShepLady, it's a pity you are so rude to Lee who is one of only few in this thread who could actually help you. I don't think she will bother now and I don't blame her. Enjoy your positive feedback
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