Background knowledge of ancestors

Kev · 12-31-2011, 03:35 PM

Hi guys! Recently I deposited for a 2 week old litter and will be coming home with a male german shepherd dog at 8 weeks old and I was wondering if anyone could help me with the history of my pup's parents and beyond. Btw: I know my pup will come from mostly working lines but I want to know what lines are in his blood.

Mother: Millview's Rhea Mila of ACM - German Shepherd Dog

Father:
Dagger de Bellator - German Shepherd Dog

Kev · 12-31-2011, 03:50 PM

It would also be helpful to share your opinions on the parents

wolfstraum · 12-31-2011, 03:55 PM

is this a breeder who trains and works these dogs?? The dam is Czech - with line breeding on Cordan - with Grim....the sire is WG WL - with lots of FN and NZ in the pedigree....does not look like the breeder puts a priority on strengthening the hip stats..and besides a lot of possible active social aggression, the risks are a bit on the high side for less than stellar hips....yes, one parent is OFA Excellent, but the pedigree is not loaded for good hips....sort of like the lottery - you know someone will win, so you buy a ticket!

IMO - this litter might produce pups that should be with owners actively training in sport and preferably experienced in the breed as they could be very high energy,mouthy and dominant pups - not laid back couch potatoes.

Lee

Kev · 12-31-2011, 04:16 PM

Thanks for reading the pedigree for me

When you mentioned that the hips arent that great, which parent are you mentioning that is OFA excellent? and for the possible active social aggression, do you mean that the dog might have a problem with people?
btw, what does FN and NZ mean?

Yes my breeder has the female and does bring her for sports.
Also, the females mother is rated o/o czech?

wolfstraum · 12-31-2011, 04:28 PM

Dagger is listed as OFA Excellent - I did not double check it on the OFA site....

The dogs could be a bit sharp - reactive -

The comment on hips is looking over both pedigrees as a whole...FN is Fast Normal, and NZ is still acceptable....both are passing and not dysplastic - but too much of certain bloodlines without balance with lines known to produce a high percentage of A normal/Good hips can indicate a higher risk...even with an excellent as a parent...knowing the siblings ratings is another step to knowing what the dogs are producing.

Lee

Kev · 12-31-2011, 05:25 PM

Since my pup that I'm getting has a possibility of being dominant, what are the first steps that I must do to steer him in the right path? What do you suggest I do afterwards?

12-31-2011, 03:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kev Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 164	Background knowledge of ancestors Hi guys! Recently I deposited for a 2 week old litter and will be coming home with a male german shepherd dog at 8 weeks old and I was wondering if anyone could help me with the history of my pup's parents and beyond. Btw: I know my pup will come from mostly working lines but I want to know what lines are in his blood. Mother: Millview's Rhea Mila of ACM - German Shepherd Dog Father: Dagger de Bellator - German Shepherd Dog

12-31-2011, 03:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	is this a breeder who trains and works these dogs?? The dam is Czech - with line breeding on Cordan - with Grim....the sire is WG WL - with lots of FN and NZ in the pedigree....does not look like the breeder puts a priority on strengthening the hip stats..and besides a lot of possible active social aggression, the risks are a bit on the high side for less than stellar hips....yes, one parent is OFA Excellent, but the pedigree is not loaded for good hips....sort of like the lottery - you know someone will win, so you buy a ticket! IMO - this litter might produce pups that should be with owners actively training in sport and preferably experienced in the breed as they could be very high energy,mouthy and dominant pups - not laid back couch potatoes. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net Last edited by wolfstraum; 12-31-2011 at 03:59 PM.

12-31-2011, 04:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kev Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 164	Thanks for reading the pedigree for me When you mentioned that the hips arent that great, which parent are you mentioning that is OFA excellent? and for the possible active social aggression, do you mean that the dog might have a problem with people? btw, what does FN and NZ mean? Yes my breeder has the female and does bring her for sports. Also, the females mother is rated o/o czech? Last edited by Kev; 12-31-2011 at 04:24 PM.

12-31-2011, 04:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Dagger is listed as OFA Excellent - I did not double check it on the OFA site.... The dogs could be a bit sharp - reactive - The comment on hips is looking over both pedigrees as a whole...FN is Fast Normal, and NZ is still acceptable....both are passing and not dysplastic - but too much of certain bloodlines without balance with lines known to produce a high percentage of A normal/Good hips can indicate a higher risk...even with an excellent as a parent...knowing the siblings ratings is another step to knowing what the dogs are producing. Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

12-31-2011, 03:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kev Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 164	It would also be helpful to share your opinions on the parents

12-31-2011, 05:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kev Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 164	Since my pup that I'm getting has a possibility of being dominant, what are the first steps that I must do to steer him in the right path? What do you suggest I do afterwards?

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