Pedigree Critque

[HannahK]

What do you think of my dog's pedigree?

I acquired her from a friend who was going to breed her but when she got her hips done decided against it. I took her because I am not a breeder and just wanted a pet that I can show for fun and enjoy spending time with.

I am new to GSD's and don't know much about pedigrees and different bloodlines. What is your opinion?

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=726634

[Lucy Dog]

West German show lines. Zamp's in there who's a very well known show line dog. That's about as good of a critique as you're going to get out of me. The WG show lines are kind of all cookie cutter when I look at them on pedigrees.

[HannahK]

Anymore people willing to weigh in?

[Lucy Dog]

PM robinhuerta if she doesn't see this thread. She's our resident WGSL expert.

[HannahK]

Thank you...I might do that

[4TheDawgies]

Rule of thumb the letters before a dogs name are a show rating.

VA- Excellent Select
V- Excellent
SG- Very Good
G- Good
A-Sufficient

Then the number following the letter is the place the dog got at the specific show and the judges preference. So for example if a dog was shown at a local club show and received a SG1 that means they got Very Good 1st place. But not necessarily first place of the class. You have to take into consideration what class the dog was shown in, how old the dog was, what titles the dog had etc.
In an adult class of titled dogs there can be G dogs in the back, SG dogs in the middle, and V dogs in the front. And in that case a V1 dog would be the first place dog.
The number is basically the judges preference in order.

A dog can only earn a V rating if the dog has a working title of a SchH1 or more.

If a dog was shown in an adult titled class and earned an SG rating it means they are officially only SG quality. If a dog was shown without titles in a young dog class 12+ months then it means they may be V quality but don't have the titles to earn a higher rating.

So for example her sire Joker Vom Eichenplatz has V1 before his name.
That is a very nice rating. And depending on where he got it could mean a few things. If he earned it at a local club show against only maybe 7 dogs, thats pretty good.

If its at a national sieger show then thats really good because competition is very large there and he was probably against upwards of 20-50 dogs depending on the turnout of the year.

The dam of this litter is IPO3 and SchH3 which is great! I like to see a SchH3 let alone IPO3 showline female. Keep in mind as sad as it is to admit, females are worth more in the whelping box producing puppies. So if a showline female is a SchH3 it probably means she was just that good so they took her that far.

Now theres the whole "paper title" thing to question. Some dogs earn their titles through dishonest matters. One would have to know a dog personally to be able to tell if this is true. I don't know this female. She is also V rated. (no number listed afterwards but thats not a big deal). V rated is V rated.

Both parents are Breed surveyed which is great. Breed survey is the critique you see below their pictures discussing their structure.

On the sires side you have Zamp and Hill, both very well known and great producing dogs.
There is no linebreeding so your female has an open pedigree. You will normally see linebreeding on a dog to try and lock in genes and types. With open pedigrees like this there is less predictability.

The dams side I am less familiar with the lines so I can't help you there. But at the very least the grandparents are V and VA rated from V and VA rated who are ALSO from V and VA rated so thats very good. What those dogs bring to the table I am not sure.

[HannahK]

Here is the breeder's website for Emma's dam

Zuchtstätte für Deutsche Schäferhunde "Vom Lamorak"

[GSDGenes]

Looking at a 6 gen pedigree will give you even more information. This pedigree is solid German conformation show lines dogs. And German showlines breeders do seem to interpret uniformity to mean "cookie cutter" dogs that look very much alike.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...ation-pedigree

[robinhuerta]

HannahK....
The pedigree (4 gen) is very nice on your female.....I especially am fond of the father line.
*Long critique-short* The father is line bred on Hill, who is a very good dog to keep temperament and character within the SLs......
I also like Daggi (sister to Dux)...who also is from Hill....being bred to Zamp...(nice combo). *I like this side of the pedigree*.
We have Zamp in our lines and have had very good success.

The mother line....you have a good side stemming from Sharan, who is from Hoss.
Hoss was used to also keep "character" within the SLs....and he went on to produce many good dogs. *not a huge fan of Sharan though.*
Pascha (although not one of my favorites) did produce "beauty", and produced better females than males.....but I also (personally) think that he was a "softer" dog in temperament...
*Personally.....I really like the father line of the dog's pedigree....I would expect character, drives and good nerve strength.....along with aesthetically nice dogs.*
I am not "super excited" about the mother line.....only because I am not a huge fan of Pascha....BUT...I can see why they incorporated Hoss (for that time period)....only wish they had used a different dog from Hoss.

I don't have the time to get in depth with the further generations......but over-all you have a nice pedigreed dog.
She *should* be sound and stable in temperament, beside being a "pretty" dog!...which she sure looks to be!
Best wishes!