Pedigree

Jack's Dad · 10-19-2011, 02:17 PM

Opinions on this pedigree. Potentials?

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...7&modir=593452

**lhczth** · 10-19-2011, 03:52 PM

For me personally, I would like to see more balance. There are some dogs that produce a lot of aggression, but I am not sure there is enough nerve base to support it. I do love the bottom part of the pedigree through Wespe Wotansblut - German Shepherd Dog Don't get a much better mother line than that.

wolfstraum · 10-19-2011, 03:54 PM

I see alot of sources of potential for aggression and thinner nerves....may be high prey working/sport dogs...and lots of big names and dogs I like in other combos - but as put together, not my cup of tea....

Lee

Lucy Dog · 10-19-2011, 04:02 PM

This is your new puppy, right? Did you pick her up yet?

Jack's Dad · 10-19-2011, 04:29 PM

Where does the potential aggression come from?

**lhczth** · 10-19-2011, 04:39 PM

Ernst, Yoschy, Tom, Arek Stoffelblick, Gildo Körbelbach......

**Castlemaid** · 10-19-2011, 04:41 PM

And where would the thin nerve base come from?

Mrs.K · 10-19-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Castlemaid

And where would the thin nerve base come from?

Definitely not from Wotan, Arek, Gildo or the Happy side. These dogs produce hardness, aggression and rock solid nerves!

Honestly, there is a lot about the pedigree that I love, however I do see some Showline in there (Wienerau etc) which is probably in regards to the thin nerves.

There is a lot of promise in that pedigree. Can't wait to hear and see more about that pup.

**Castlemaid** · 10-19-2011, 05:33 PM

I think when people hear that a pedigree has a lot of dogs that bring aggression into it, they start to worry.

From my limited exposure to working lines that I see at club and with the RCMP dogs I see - lots of agression is not the problem. The problem is lots of aggression coupled with low-threshold, and/or drive leakage (wich is a nerve issue, wich manifests itself in a lot of different ways depending on the dog), and sharpness-reactivity, impulsive behaviours.

A dog that with a lot of strong aggression, but rock solid stable and in complete control of itself is an impressive force to behold!

cliffson1 · 10-19-2011, 09:02 PM

I am seriously thinking about getting a puppy from an Ellute daughter and Sid vom haus Pixner.....

10-19-2011, 02:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jack's Dad Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 1,351	Pedigree Opinions on this pedigree. Potentials? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...7&modir=593452 __________________ Andy

10-19-2011, 03:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,695	For me personally, I would like to see more balance. There are some dogs that produce a lot of aggression, but I am not sure there is enough nerve base to support it. I do love the bottom part of the pedigree through Wespe Wotansblut - German Shepherd Dog Don't get a much better mother line than that. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

10-19-2011, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,087	I see alot of sources of potential for aggression and thinner nerves....may be high prey working/sport dogs...and lots of big names and dogs I like in other combos - but as put together, not my cup of tea.... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

10-19-2011, 04:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,177	This is your new puppy, right? Did you pick her up yet? __________________ Paul

10-19-2011, 04:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jack's Dad Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 1,351	Where does the potential aggression come from? __________________ Andy

10-19-2011, 04:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 11,695	Ernst, Yoschy, Tom, Arek Stoffelblick, Gildo Körbelbach...... __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

10-19-2011, 04:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,088	And where would the thin nerve base come from? __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

10-19-2011, 05:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,088	I think when people hear that a pedigree has a lot of dogs that bring aggression into it, they start to worry. From my limited exposure to working lines that I see at club and with the RCMP dogs I see - lots of agression is not the problem. The problem is lots of aggression coupled with low-threshold, and/or drive leakage (wich is a nerve issue, wich manifests itself in a lot of different ways depending on the dog), and sharpness-reactivity, impulsive behaviours. A dog that with a lot of strong aggression, but rock solid stable and in complete control of itself is an impressive force to behold! __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

10-19-2011, 09:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	I am seriously thinking about getting a puppy from an Ellute daughter and Sid vom haus Pixner.....

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