Pet lines?

[houckster6]

At what point does a line become strictly a "pet line"? For example, if a dog's sire and dam have not been titled in conformation, but comes from lines that have been titled, would that be considered a pet line because parents haven't worked or shown (officially)?

[Liesje]

To me a "pet line" is when you look at the pedigree and don't see any recognizable purpose-bred dogs/kennels for 3-4 generations. Then when you go back 3-4 gens you might start seeing recognizable dogs and kennels but the combination is often a mish-mash, no clear direction or indication of what the breeder was trying to accomplish. I wouldn't say a dog from untitled parents is necessarily a pet line.

[wildo]

I agree with Lies's definition, and would add that IMO any dog that can definably be traced to a puppy mill could probably be defined as "pet lines."

[onyx'girl]

Along with the mishmash pedigree~BYB pups that have no papered pedigree=pet lines
Onyx is from said lineage(even though parents supposedly had papers, never were seen by me!)
Her sister is being bred... without papers/health testing, the "breeder" is putting CKC papers on the litters. UGH!

[lhczth]

Pet lines are those that are bred primarily for the pet market. Not all of these people are breeding untitled dogs, dogs with no health clearances, using the pet registries nor are bad people. Their goals are to produce low drive couch potatoes for john Q public. Many are conscientious people breeding pretty big headed black sable dogs, pretty plushy black/red dogs, big old fashioned GSD..........

[BlackGSD]

Originally Posted by lhczth

Pet lines are those that are bred primarily for the pet market. Not all of these people are breeding untitled dogs, dogs with no health clearances, using the pet registries nor are bad people. Their goals are to produce low drive couch potatoes for john Q public. Many are conscientious people breeding pretty big headed black sable dogs, pretty plushy black/red dogs, big old fashioned GSD..........

And there are those breeding "pretty big headed black sable dogs" that AREN'T low drive, and that are selling them to John Q Public, who then has problems because they can't deal with the dog when it isn't a couch potato and it has ZERO "biddability"(sp).

[Emoore]

Originally Posted by BlackGSD

And there are those breeding "pretty big headed black sable dogs" that AREN'T low drive, and that are selling them to John Q Public, who then has problems because they can't deal with the dog when it isn't a couch potato and it has ZERO "biddability"(sp).

Which is why more and more of them are showing up in shelters.

I think a pet breeder is someone breeding primarily for the pet market. I think pet *lines* are pretty much what Lies and Wildo said.

[gagsd]

Just an aside, but some petstores get puppies from titled, imported parents.

[BlackGSD]

Originally Posted by Emoore

Which is why more and more of them are showing up in shelters.
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Yep, And being rehomed thru rescues. I know someone that got a really nice dark sable Czech female that was rehomed from the owner with the help of a rescue. Nice dog that was just to much for the pet home that got her as a puppy.

[BlackGSD]

Originally Posted by gagsd

Just an aside, but some petstores get puppies from titled, imported parents.

And there are ads in the newspaper for them too. And cheap. Often they are GSL dogs but not always.