American vs German showlines

mrudderman24 · 09-21-2011, 10:03 PM

Stupid question. My dog's parents, grandparents and great grandparents all came from kennels here in the US. However, 4 generations back, the dogs are from Germany. I'm assuming this means my dog is from American lines (he looks the part too, skinnier head, longer snout than some German lines I've seen).

What exactly determines if a dog is American bloodlines or German? For German lines, do the parents have to be directly from Germany? Also, DDR is East German right, but what is the West German line called?

Emoore · 09-21-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mrudderman24

Also, DDR is East German right, but what is the West German line called?

West German.

Either West German Working line (WGWL) or West German Show Line (WGSL or just GSL)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrudderman24

Stupid question. My dog's parents, grandparents and great grandparents all came from kennels here in the US. However, 4 generations back, the dogs are from Germany. I'm assuming this means my dog is from American lines (he looks the part too, skinnier head, longer snout than some German lines I've seen).

What exactly determines if a dog is American bloodlines or German? For German lines, do the parents have to be directly from Germany?

Nope, a dog's parents and grandparents can be born in the US and the dog still be German bloodline.

Lucy Dog · 09-21-2011, 10:08 PM

If this makes sense... the bloodlines determines the bloodlines, not the place of birth. For example, west german show line dogs that are bred here in the US are still west german show lines dogs.

Post the pedigree.

Emoore · 09-21-2011, 11:10 PM

Looks like your dog's sire was bred by Vonpreis Kennel:
Vonpreis Germanshepherds

I can't seem to get the mom's side to open.

Edit: Oh, it's because the attachments aren't there anymore!

mrudderman24 · 09-21-2011, 11:12 PM

Thanks guys. I didn't mean to put "showlines" in the subject, woops

Anyway. My gsd is from a back yard breeder (IMHO). High Endeavors in Virginia. The breeder provided AKC papers and lots of info, but the sire and bitch had no hip xrays. I purchased him when I lived in VA

Anyway, I attached the pedigree. My boy's father's name is Bartholomew. His mother's name is Alexis.

Furthermore, I have pedigrees on Alexis's mother and father too (Ring and Bear) if anyone wants to see that.

mrudderman24 · 09-21-2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emoore

Looks like your dog's sire was bred by Vonpreis Kennel:
Vonpreis Germanshepherds

I can't seem to get the mom's side to open.

Edit: Oh, it's because the attachments aren't there anymore!

Sorry about that. I had to delete my post and repost it because i screwed up the attachments. It should be there now!

Ramage · 09-21-2011, 11:16 PM

Based onthe pedigrees, your dog is a mix of German and American lines.

Emoore · 09-21-2011, 11:19 PM

They're German several generations back, but your dog is basically American pet lines.

mrudderman24 · 09-21-2011, 11:32 PM

thanks for the info!

09-21-2011, 10:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	American vs German showlines Stupid question. My dog's parents, grandparents and great grandparents all came from kennels here in the US. However, 4 generations back, the dogs are from Germany. I'm assuming this means my dog is from American lines (he looks the part too, skinnier head, longer snout than some German lines I've seen). What exactly determines if a dog is American bloodlines or German? For German lines, do the parents have to be directly from Germany? Also, DDR is East German right, but what is the West German line called?

09-21-2011, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lucy Dog Crowned Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,179	If this makes sense... the bloodlines determines the bloodlines, not the place of birth. For example, west german show line dogs that are bred here in the US are still west german show lines dogs. Post the pedigree. __________________ Paul

09-21-2011, 11:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,214	Looks like your dog's sire was bred by Vonpreis Kennel: Vonpreis Germanshepherds I can't seem to get the mom's side to open. Edit: Oh, it's because the attachments aren't there anymore! __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010 Last edited by Emoore; 09-21-2011 at 11:12 PM.

09-21-2011, 11:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	Thanks guys. I didn't mean to put "showlines" in the subject, woops Anyway. My gsd is from a back yard breeder (IMHO). High Endeavors in Virginia. The breeder provided AKC papers and lots of info, but the sire and bitch had no hip xrays. I purchased him when I lived in VA Anyway, I attached the pedigree. My boy's father's name is Bartholomew. His mother's name is Alexis. Furthermore, I have pedigrees on Alexis's mother and father too (Ring and Bear) if anyone wants to see that. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by mrudderman24; 09-21-2011 at 11:15 PM.

09-21-2011, 11:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,214	They're German several generations back, but your dog is basically American pet lines. __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

09-21-2011, 11:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ramage Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 133	Based onthe pedigrees, your dog is a mix of German and American lines.

09-21-2011, 11:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
mrudderman24 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	thanks for the info!

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