Would these two pedigrees produce good working pups?

mro · 09-13-2011, 05:42 PM

I know a bit about working dogs, and have no problem picking out a pup if I can take a look at a litter in person, but know next to nothing about pedigrees and bloodlines. I'm taking a look at this import litter from Germany and would love a second opinion on this pedigree:

K-wurf. v.d. Wilden Teufeln - German Shepherd Dog

I'm also looking at this litter. I do think these are better bloodlines but input on both would be amazing!

"L" Litter

With that said, I'm looking for a stable and drivey dog for a little bit of sport (PSA) and personal protection.

Anything that anyone could tell me about these litters looking at their pedigrees would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you

**JakodaCD OA** · 09-13-2011, 05:57 PM

you could most likely ask debbieb here on the board, she trains with angie, knows her dogs.

If Angie put that description up on her webpage, you can pretty much be assured your gonna get what she says about them.

I believe Angie would pick the dog that would suit you vs you picking the puppy yourself

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wolfstraum · 09-13-2011, 08:15 PM

the 2-2 linebreeding is way too close for comfort on the first litter. I did not think the SV allowed a 2-2

Lee

cliffson1 · 09-13-2011, 10:59 PM

I have a very high regard for Angie and Liberatore Shepherds in terms of knowledge of the Czech lines, and priorities in breeding.

debbiebrown · 09-15-2011, 06:20 PM

i will have the pleasure of meeting this new litter at training with Ang this week, i have been looking forwrd to seeing them.............the litter looks pretty uniform at this point i'm told, pretty active little buggers.............i can assure you Ang at Liberatore would make sure she fit you with the best match........and also be available for any questions or concerns throughout the journey!

**JakodaCD OA** · 09-15-2011, 06:45 PM

debbie I think you should get one !! and pick me out a boy will ya

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debbiebrown · 09-15-2011, 07:08 PM

i'm kinda scared to see them, its going to be Very tempting! Ok, i'll pick you out a real active boy to go with Masi! that should be fun! i am thinking if Tom moves out to camp and takes Neka and Sam i can live here and get one of those pups! lol

Jgk2383 · 09-15-2011, 07:31 PM

I would go no where near the first litter but would take one from Liberatore in a heartbeat.

**JakodaCD OA** · 09-16-2011, 07:56 AM

debbie I'm not sure I'd want YOU picking a puppy for me, I can imagine I'd end up with some wild raging maniac just so you could "snicker" about it

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debbiebrown · 09-16-2011, 03:31 PM

Oh stop it! i would pick a wild maniac for both of us, so we could be nuts together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll have to get pics of these little buggers!

09-13-2011, 05:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
mro New Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5	Would these two pedigrees produce good working pups? I know a bit about working dogs, and have no problem picking out a pup if I can take a look at a litter in person, but know next to nothing about pedigrees and bloodlines. I'm taking a look at this import litter from Germany and would love a second opinion on this pedigree: K-wurf. v.d. Wilden Teufeln - German Shepherd Dog I'm also looking at this litter. I do think these are better bloodlines but input on both would be amazing! "L" Litter With that said, I'm looking for a stable and drivey dog for a little bit of sport (PSA) and personal protection. Anything that anyone could tell me about these litters looking at their pedigrees would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you Last edited by mro; 09-13-2011 at 05:44 PM.

09-13-2011, 05:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	you could most likely ask debbieb here on the board, she trains with angie, knows her dogs. If Angie put that description up on her webpage, you can pretty much be assured your gonna get what she says about them. I believe Angie would pick the dog that would suit you vs you picking the puppy yourself.. __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

09-13-2011, 08:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	the 2-2 linebreeding is way too close for comfort on the first litter. I did not think the SV allowed a 2-2 Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

09-15-2011, 06:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
debbiebrown Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: maine Posts: 7,598	i will have the pleasure of meeting this new litter at training with Ang this week, i have been looking forwrd to seeing them.............the litter looks pretty uniform at this point i'm told, pretty active little buggers.............i can assure you Ang at Liberatore would make sure she fit you with the best match........and also be available for any questions or concerns throughout the journey! __________________ url

09-15-2011, 06:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	debbie I think you should get one !! and pick me out a boy will ya)) __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

09-13-2011, 10:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	I have a very high regard for Angie and Liberatore Shepherds in terms of knowledge of the Czech lines, and priorities in breeding.

09-15-2011, 07:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
debbiebrown Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: maine Posts: 7,598	i'm kinda scared to see them, its going to be Very tempting! Ok, i'll pick you out a real active boy to go with Masi! that should be fun! i am thinking if Tom moves out to camp and takes Neka and Sam i can live here and get one of those pups! lol __________________ url

09-15-2011, 07:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jgk2383 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SouthEastern Arizona AKA The Sun Posts: 397	I would go no where near the first litter but would take one from Liberatore in a heartbeat. __________________ May you live as long as you want but never want as long as you live- Slainte'!

09-16-2011, 07:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	debbie I'm not sure I'd want YOU picking a puppy for me, I can imagine I'd end up with some wild raging maniac just so you could "snicker" about it) __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

09-16-2011, 03:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
debbiebrown Crowned Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: maine Posts: 7,598	Oh stop it! i would pick a wild maniac for both of us, so we could be nuts together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll have to get pics of these little buggers! __________________ url

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