Tell Me About Your Czech/West German Working Line Dog/Puppy

[LaRen616]

Please share stories about your Czech/West German Working line dog/puppy.

What was their temperment/drive/personality like when they were a puppy?

What are they like as an adult?

[LaRen616]

This is a dud thread.

[ERRN1313]

I don't have much to tell. Yuri is 19 weeks old. Father West German, mother Czech. My last GSD was 100% West German. I do see a difference in them. I know all dogs are different so I don't know if it's the Czech or not. He is much more stubborn, very alpha. Much more of a nipper, although maybe I don't remember the land shark as much since we got our previous dog in the winter and were better protected with clothing. I have worried that he might become more aggressive although the breeder states he breeds with temperment as first concern. I have read that they are a little harder to train (Czech) but Yuri did find in puppy kindergarden, and appears to be really smart. I'm still having trouble with the housetraining, he just seems to go whenever and wherever. (Any thoughts appreciated). Not much to add, but I liked your question, and wondered about it also. (The breeder I got my previous dog from did not like the Czech lines I found out, kind of made me a little nervous too).

[LaRen616]

Originally Posted by ERRN1313

Father West German, mother Czech.

That's the same with my girl.

Originally Posted by ERRN1313

My last GSD was 100% West German. I do see a difference in them. I know all dogs are different so I don't know if it's the Czech or not. He is much more stubborn, very alpha. Much more of a nipper, although maybe I don't remember the land shark as much since we got our previous dog in the winter and were better protected with clothing. I have worried that he might become more aggressive although the breeder states he breeds with temperment as first concern. I have read that they are a little harder to train (Czech) but Yuri did find in puppy kindergarden, and appears to be really smart. I'm still having trouble with the housetraining, he just seems to go whenever and wherever. (Any thoughts appreciated). Not much to add, but I liked your question, and wondered about it also. (The breeder I got my previous dog from did not like the Czech lines I found out, kind of made me a little nervous too).

He sounds very different from my 11 week old female. She is definitly not a biter, she seems to catch on to things quickly, my girl is a very happy, friendly puppy. Potty training is going really well, only a couple of accidents. She cries or goes to the back door when she wants to go out to potty. So far I am very pleased with her personality and temperment.

[cliffson1]

I've had so many in recent years...lol...but my 6 month old is German and Czech on both sides. Very very easy to housebreak...never had accident in house and when put in kennel won't go in kennel....waits until he can go in woods around the house. Was very nippy as puppy but broke him of that in couple days...loves to swim, has great focus and retains focus very well....very resilent, recovers very very fast from adversity.(like getting nailed badly by 2 year old female, and next day he is pestering her again...lol). he's great with kids and other dogs at this point....doesn't like coyotes...lol) Overall, I think he 's a good pup.

[lhczth]

And as you often say, Cliff, they are all GSD. Your pup sounds very much like my all German female.

[hunterisgreat]

My male's **** is a slovakian import, and I know there is ddr & czech in the sire... cliff correct me if I'm wrong... going off my memory of the original discussions with nate.

He is extremely serious in public or with strangers... no tail wagging, always watching. He hunts for eye contact with people and then stares them down in a dominant posturing type of way... his focus is incredible. He will bring you his ball, place it delicately at your feet or in your lap, take a step back, and silently stare at it for more than an hour. He is rarely ever faked out with the pretend throw of the ball. My female usually is. I think her prey drive gets the best of her. His memory is superb. When I've put away all the toys he'll remember where I put one and go sit and stare at the location, throwing me a glance here and there to let me know what he wants. Its not smell, as I have removed the toy afterwards and he still marks the place he last saw it go. He is very methodical and deliberate compared to my female.. she acts and asks questions later. He never makes a mistake in that regard, he has always already thought about and committed to whatever action he's engaged in.

He has been described to me by those who work him with me, as very serious, that training is not a game in any way to him, and that he is more of a police or military style dog than a sport dog.

[Freestep]

I had a Czech/West German workingline pup once... I swear, she had ADD (except when it came to cats)... no focus, easily distractable, in constant motion, and would spin in circles... drove me nuts. On the upside, she had nerves of steel, was afraid of nothing and no one, loved people and other dogs, would play all day, tough and resilient. Happy goofy temperament, nothing upset her. Prey drive up the wazzoo, no civil aggression for as long as I had her (about 18 months). Drop dead gorgeous black sable. Moderate hip dysplasia. Due to her cat drive, I rehomed her to a SchH enthusiast with no cats. She was a good dog in many ways, just not the right dog for me... waaay too hyper.

Epik vom Schaaf



Here is her pedigree... (actually her litter brother):

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=623530

[cliffson1]

@ Freestep...I was going to say that the hyperness probably came from the West working, but upon looking at your pedigree I see that the hyperness could have origins from either side. There are some Czech dogs that are very good at sport....one of thes kennels is the zdentkovo Dvora kennel. You'll notice that Aron is a LGA competitor and his father was one of the great world competitors.(Grim z PS) Also, my puppy's father is out of Franco zdentkovo Dvora, who was a bundesseigerprufund competitor again demonstrating high sport ability.
@ Lisa, You know I agree with you on this, and I am sometimes a little touchy about people having to justify Czech/West breedings like one side is contaminated...lol, but I think that most good responsible breeders will go to where they can get what they need with always an eye for not getting caught up with too much saturation. Breed dogs....not lines.

[WarrantsWifey]

Killian is Czech/DDR. He is intelligent as most GSD's. He has STRONG drive to work, loads of energy. When at work he is excited, kinda a nut, he loves to work, he thrives at training. He has a SOLID on and off switch, which I love!!