ddr czech and slovak bloodlines

[melissa246]

hey guys, So if a puppy's sire: is a blend of DDR and Czech bloodlines and dam is a imported female from Czech republic.She is a combination of tough Slovak working lines from her mother's side, and Czech working lines on her father's side. (sorry i don't have pedigrees)

The dem is a police dog and the sire is competing to get his first Schutzhund title I believe.

Can you predict what kind of puppies they will have with regards to : energy level, play/retrieve drive, food drive, temperament, protection, Schutzhund, agility etc etc ? Thanks.

[gagsd]

No

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by gagsd

No

Would you care to be more elaborate?

[gagsd]

No, I can't predict anything soley based on countries of origin.

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by gagsd

No, I can't

as in, as an individual. cool.

Would anyone else like to comment? lol

[Chris Wild]

No one can tell you what to expect in a pup based on country of origin. Certain generalizations.. that are very, very, very *general* can sometimes be inferred from bloodline, which may or may not match country of origin. For example I exchanged emails the other day with someone who thought he had a Czech dog because it had been imported from a Czech kennel. Well, no, he had a German show line dog that just happened to have been bred in the Czech Rep. Huge difference.

If you can post a pedigree of the dogs in question so people can see the bloodlines and specific dogs involved, people might be able to provide some insight on what you could expect. But based simply on geography, no one can.

[gagsd]

Chris, you said that much better than I!

[Chris Wild]

I just used a lot more words, Mary. That's all.

[melissa246]

Originally Posted by Chris Wild

No one can tell you what to expect in a pup based on country of origin. Certain generalizations.. that are very, very, very *general* can sometimes be inferred from bloodline, which may or may not match country of origin. For example I exchanged emails the other day with someone who thought he had a Czech dog because it had been imported from a Czech kennel. Well, no, he had a German show line dog that just happened to have been bred in the Czech Rep. Huge difference.

If you can post a pedigree of the dogs in question so people can see the bloodlines and specific dogs involved, people might be able to provide some insight on what you could expect. But based simply on geography, no one can.

Hi Chris,

Thanks for providing insight into this matter I really appreciate it. I'm assuming based on my question you can tell that I know little to nothing about this breed and you are right, so any information other than a blunt/insignificant "No" for an answer is really helpful and helps me learn more about this breed.

I have one more question though, if you don't mind, you said that

Certain generalizations.. that are very, very, very *general* can sometimes be inferred from bloodline

, that is even if I did have or showed you the pedigree you'd only be able to make very very general predictions right? If that is the case, then why do I see so many people place so much emphasis on pedigrees? (i'm just trying to understand, not arguing, also i know this is an offtopic question so feel free to skip it )

[Chris Wild]

The generalizations I am speaking of relate to general trends seen within overall bloodline types. Such as "German show line dogs are X" and "German working line dogs are Y" and "Czech dogs are Z".

When looking at individual bloodlines.. or call them families if you will.. within those types, more specific information can be gleaned. That's why people have to see the pedigree, to know exactly what dogs and family bloodlines are in that pedigree, to get any helpful information. Just knowing that it's a Czech or West German or German Show or American bloodline dog isn't enough. Knowing that it comes from the Fero vs Tom line within west working, or Ursus vs Hill line within German show, or Grimm zPS vs Norbo within Czech can say something.