Dame plus Sire equal??

Miikkas mom · 08-24-2011, 01:20 PM

What kind of pups do you think these two will produce? The pups will be born in early September and if I want one, I’ll need to put down a deposit asap.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=670998

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=550123

Josie/Zeus · 08-24-2011, 02:05 PM

I love that pair, I don't know anything about pedigrees- but that Sire is super hot!

Miikkas mom · 08-24-2011, 02:32 PM

Thanks Josie

I really don’t know anything about petigree’s either.

I’ve pretty much decided on getting a pup out of this litter, though. I was just curious as to what others thought of the sire/dame pedigree.

selzer · 08-24-2011, 02:41 PM

I like the sire a lot, and the dam in nice. Both pedigrees look good. A lot of Yasko. Nice German show line dogs. I think you can get some very nice dogs out of that combination.

Miikkas mom · 08-24-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by selzer

I like the sire a lot, and the dam in nice. Both pedigrees look good. A lot of Yasko. Nice German show line dogs. I think you can get some very nice dogs out of that combination.

Thanks Selzer. You’re right – there is a lot of Yasko. Yasko is in both the dam and the sire pedigree’s. Is that bad?

selzer · 08-24-2011, 03:27 PM

Yasko was a good dog, 2x world sieger and produced well too. The only problem is that he is line bred on Uran and Quando von Arminius, and Quana von Arminius (guessing litter mates) and I think Quando and Uran had the same dam -- could be off on that, just a lot of that on both sides. They are great names, and good dogs. I think you can get an awesome pup out of the combo. If 9 generations you have uran and Quando all over the place and ten generations back Palme is everywhere, they were great dogs. There was just a thread on this.

I would probably go ahead and get a pup out of that litter if I could manage it. It looks like a nice pairing.

Miikkas mom · 08-24-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by selzer

Yasko was a good dog, 2x world sieger and produced well too. The only problem is that he is line bred on Uran and Quando von Arminius, and Quana von Arminius (guessing litter mates) and I think Quando and Uran had the same dam -- could be off on that, just a lot of that on both sides. They are great names, and good dogs. I think you can get an awesome pup out of the combo. If 9 generations you have uran and Quando all over the place and ten generations back Palme is everywhere, they were great dogs. There was just a thread on this.

I would probably go ahead and get a pup out of that litter if I could manage it. It looks like a nice pairing.

Thanks Selzer! I looked back over both pedigrees - my head is spinning!

A tread on what?

BowWowMeow · 08-24-2011, 03:54 PM

The thread is on the dangers of breeding too heavily on one dog or a few dogs and heavily selecting for traits like color.

This is the reason the breed has so many health and temperament problems, even in well respected lines.

Here's the thread: Iceberg Breeders

Miikkas mom · 08-24-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BowWowMeow

The thread is on the dangers of breeding too heavily on one dog or a few dogs and heavily selecting for traits like color.

This is the reason the breed has so many health and temperament problems, even in well respected lines.

Here's the thread: Iceberg Breeders

Thanks for the link, Ruth. Very interesting thread!

Jessiewessie99 · 08-24-2011, 05:37 PM

The dam is beautiful. I love the dark pigment on the sire. Otherwise, I can't wait to see puppy pics!

I too am leaning towards WGSL as my next GSD.

08-24-2011, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Miikkas mom Master Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 827	Dame plus Sire equal?? What kind of pups do you think these two will produce? The pups will be born in early September and if I want one, I’ll need to put down a deposit asap. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=670998 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...html?id=550123 __________________ Momma to: Miikka, 2-year old F Black & Red WGSL Scout, 5 year F calico cat Waiting at the Rainbow Bridge: Bella, 15 yr old GSD/Chow chow mix Annie, 16 yr old Black Cocker Spaniel Socks, 15 yr old Tuxedo cat Last edited by Miikkas mom; 08-24-2011 at 01:25 PM.

08-24-2011, 02:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Josie/Zeus Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: DFW TX Posts: 1,846	I love that pair, I don't know anything about pedigrees- but that Sire is super hot! __________________ Alta Tollhaus "Koda" 3/18/11 currently training in PSA Rest in Peace my boys Zeus 2000-2009 Odin 2010-2011

08-24-2011, 02:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Miikkas mom Master Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 827	Thanks Josie I really don’t know anything about petigree’s either. I’ve pretty much decided on getting a pup out of this litter, though. I was just curious as to what others thought of the sire/dame pedigree. __________________ Momma to: Miikka, 2-year old F Black & Red WGSL Scout, 5 year F calico cat Waiting at the Rainbow Bridge: Bella, 15 yr old GSD/Chow chow mix Annie, 16 yr old Black Cocker Spaniel Socks, 15 yr old Tuxedo cat

08-24-2011, 02:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	I like the sire a lot, and the dam in nice. Both pedigrees look good. A lot of Yasko. Nice German show line dogs. I think you can get some very nice dogs out of that combination. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

08-24-2011, 03:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 17,499	Yasko was a good dog, 2x world sieger and produced well too. The only problem is that he is line bred on Uran and Quando von Arminius, and Quana von Arminius (guessing litter mates) and I think Quando and Uran had the same dam -- could be off on that, just a lot of that on both sides. They are great names, and good dogs. I think you can get an awesome pup out of the combo. If 9 generations you have uran and Quando all over the place and ten generations back Palme is everywhere, they were great dogs. There was just a thread on this. I would probably go ahead and get a pup out of that litter if I could manage it. It looks like a nice pairing. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC Babs, CD RA CGC Herding Instinct Certificate Heidi, RA CGC Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly & Bear

08-24-2011, 03:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
BowWowMeow Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 14,793	The thread is on the dangers of breeding too heavily on one dog or a few dogs and heavily selecting for traits like color. This is the reason the breed has so many health and temperament problems, even in well respected lines. Here's the thread: Iceberg Breeders __________________ Ruth & the 4 Legged Rescue Gang Rafi the malaroo http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238 Gio & Varda, the krazy kittens ....In my heart: Cleo Kitty Chama Kai Basu Massie

08-24-2011, 05:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jessiewessie99 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lakewod, CA Posts: 6,807	The dam is beautiful. I love the dark pigment on the sire. Otherwise, I can't wait to see puppy pics! I too am leaning towards WGSL as my next GSD. __________________ Jessica-Shelter Volunteer Molly-GSD ✔ Certified Ninja Dog Tanner-GSD ✔ Certified Lovebug RIP: Max & Simba "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible."-George Chakiris, as said by Agent Derek Mogan

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