What do you think of this virtual mating?

[Freestep]

So, my breeder is daydreaming about me keeping Vinca intact and someday breeding her to this male Havoc Vom Haus Juros in Canada, owned by Monique Anstee. My breeder would like to keep a pup out of such a breeding. Of course, this would all be pending hip and health clearances, titles, and my tolerance for keeping an intact bitch. Breeding wasn't even on my radar until my breeder brought it up. But anyway... thoughts on this mating check?

Mating test - German Shepherd Dog

[cliffson1]

Your breeder has forgot more than most people on this forum know, listen to your breeder if you have the wherewithall to do a breeding.JMO

[codmaster]

Originally Posted by Freestep

So, my breeder is daydreaming about me keeping Vinca intact and someday breeding her to this male Havoc Vom Haus Juros in Canada, owned by Monique Anstee. My breeder would like to keep a pup out of such a breeding. Of course, this would all be pending hip and health clearances, titles, and my tolerance for keeping an intact bitch. Breeding wasn't even on my radar until my breeder brought it up. But anyway... thoughts on this mating check?

Mating test - German Shepherd Dog

Also might consider what you get out of the breeding (and the overall purpose of it as well). Do you want to breed your dog?

[Freestep]

Do *I* want to breed my dog? I hadn't even thought about it, I was planning on having her spayed. Since it was my breeder that brought it up, and she is the one who suggested this male, I have to consider. Thus, I'm bringing it up here to see what other people's opinions are. I'm not well-versed enough to know what is being brought to the table by the combination of bloodlines.

I trust my breeder's judgement, I'm just not sure if *I* want to have a breeding bitch. If I decided to go ahead with it, I would lease my Vinca back, and have the breeder take care of the whole thing. I'm not a breeder, so it's best left in the hands of people who know what they are doing.

What would I get out of it? I don't know. Maybe a little pride, if the litter turned out well. Somewhere down the line I might want another Vinca, she is really turning out to be the perfect pup for me and I'd be lucky to have a GSD like her for the rest of my life. The breeder would want to keep a male pup out of this breeding, so there's that. I kind of owe her, she's been very kind to me.

[GSDElsa]

I've said to people considering this in the past--it's YOUR blood, sweat, tears, and hard work going into the bitch. You who risks losing her if something goes wrong.

Something to consider. Things aren't always candy coated and happy in the land of birthing and raising dogs. How would your relationship be with your breeder if you left her in her care to have a litter and something bad happened?

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by GSDElsa

Something to consider. Things aren't always candy coated and happy in the land of birthing and raising dogs. How would your relationship be with your breeder if you left her in her care to have a litter and something bad happened?

Oh believe me, I know breeding isn't candyland. To me, it's more like a shop of horrors. That's why I've never done it.

But if I did, I feel that Vinca would be much safer in the hands of my breeder than she would be with me. Julia has boatloads of experience with breeding and I have none. If something bad happened, of course I'd be devastated, but I think there'd be much less chance of it there than here.

And of course, the least risky is not doing it at all.

[Andaka]

But spaying her is risky, too. And it seems that no one but selzer talks about that.

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by Andaka

But spaying her is risky, too. And it seems that no one but selzer talks about that.

Right. Of course, there's a risk in everything.

I was having a hard enough time deciding *when* to spay, now I have to decide *whether* to spay? Lord have mercy.

[cliffson1]

Freestep, the issue is really whether you want to lease her back to the breeder for the litter. I am sure that Julia would tell you she expects the same things that I or others on this form who are familar with these genetics would expect. Actually her info will be more accurate than ours as she has developed her lines over many years and TESTED her lines in trials and real life. So I think you already have knowledge of what the breeding should produce.....to lease or not to lease....that is the question.

[Freestep]

Originally Posted by cliffson1

I am sure that Julia would tell you she expects the same things that I or others on this form who are familar with these genetics would expect.

True enough, but opinions being what they are, I'm sure someone has another perspective, or has a comment on the dogs that would be linebred on.

Anyone?

.....to lease or not to lease....that is the question.

No, the real question is to spay or not to spay. If I decided to breed, there's no question--she would go back to the breeder. She knows what she's doing; I don't!