Ox z Jirkova Dvora & Caribe z Heranova Vily

[Verivus]

So in my quest (which seems to be taking a long time!) to find the GSD for me, perusing the threads on this forum, and looking high and low, I think I've finally narrowed it down to two litters that will be happening this year. This is the pairing for one litter that I was hoping to get some opinions on. Ox is currently in the Czech Republic so I really only have videos to go by, but to the untrained eye it's very difficult to really tell how good his work is! The female is actually in the states - about 2 hours from me in fact, but figured might as well throw her video in too. This litter will be born sometime mid-May.

Link to Ox z Jirkova Dvora CACIT 2010 video:

YouTube - jirka_ox.avi

YouTube - jirka_ox.avi

His pedigree:
VYBORNY Ox z Jirkova dvora - German shepherd dog

The female, Caribe z Heranovy Vily:

YouTube - CARIBE

YouTube - CARIBE

Her pedigree:
Caribe z Heranovy vily - German shepherd dog

Any input is appreciated!

[BlackthornGSD]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I looked at Caribe's pedigree. I am amused that she basically has a very nice German working line pedigree. I like her looks.

[Verivus]

Out of curiosity, why do you find it amusing? I figured she was WGWL so thanks for verifying that for me. Reading pedigrees is still not easy.

[Ace952]

Ox is a good stud dog.

I don't know anything about the female but if Jiri is using I wouldn't question.

Why this particular litter? I see Jinopo has a few good litters coming up.

[Verivus]

Sent you a pm ace

[BlackthornGSD]

Originally Posted by Verivus

Out of curiosity, why do you find it amusing? I figured she was WGWL so thanks for verifying that for me. Reading pedigrees is still not easy.

I guess I'm amused because it seems like some people try very hard to make a distinction like "THIS is a Czech dog not a German dog" -- but some of the "Czech" dogs now are almost all German lines.

[BlackthornGSD]

What is your goal with the dog? Are you looking for a dog to do schutzhund with?

[Verivus]

Yea, I'm going to do Schutzhund and possibly dabble in PP later on.

[BlackthornGSD]

The female looks young or inexperienced in her video. She seems to have good drive, but she's not strongly committed to the grip--she lets go when startled by the guy behind her and doesn't really hold on firmly when she's working by herself. It seems to be a soft puppy sleeve, too (which isn't a bad thing--but it tells us nothing about how she would bite on a firmer trial sleeve--and is she on the puppy sleeve because she doesn't bite hard or won't stay on if she has to bite hard?)

She might be a very nice dog who has had not much or not great training and I don't see anything that rings any alarm bells, but I'm more impressed by her looks than her working ability as evidenced by that video.

[Verivus]

Hm, the female was born in 2007 so she's not that young anymore. Thanks for the input Christine (we have the same name ), greatly appreciated! I think I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board now lol.