Pedigree Opinion

Hackez · 03-20-2011, 04:56 PM

I went to see a GSD breeder in my area. They seem like responsible breeders. They have immaculate facilities, screen for health issues, etc.

I have no idea how to properly analyze pedigrees though and was hoping for advice from those experienced with them. I know that parents have an enormous influence on a puppies temperament, drive, etc.

This is a litter they have planned for later in the year.

Sire: August Von Wentworth Haus - German shepherd dog

Dam: Henshaws Freya Vom Sucherquelle - German shepherd dog

We are planning to go with a male puppy since we already have two female pack members. (Family pet)

Thoughts?

**JakodaCD OA** · 03-20-2011, 05:07 PM

all I can say is I had a Zorro Laagerwall grandson (he is listed on the dam's ped) and was the best dawg I've ever had

Emoore · 03-20-2011, 05:08 PM

I don't know any of the dogs personally and don't have any insight into them except that Freya has a lot of Grafentals (DDR) on her motherline. My pup has a lot of Grafental also and so far he's been awesome.

August's mother Cora has/had hip dysplasia. August himself has good hips, but if I were looking into this litter I would want to see hip scores on Cora's siblings and offspring to make sure that her faulty hips are just a fluke and not something genetic. H

Hackez · 03-20-2011, 07:48 PM

Thanks for your input. Would appreciate more feedback!

wolfstraum · 03-20-2011, 09:22 PM

Is that really a photo of August??? I know the guy who bred that litter (accidental litter - Ruger climbed fence while owner was away....female had NOT been OFA'd yet - she did definitely fail OFA) ....

will send you a pm.....

Lee

Shrap · 03-20-2011, 10:01 PM

I can't think of any reason a reputable breeder would breed from a dog with a dysplastic parent????

cliffson1 · 03-20-2011, 10:17 PM

I think this breeding is kinda extreme on different sides of spectrum, but my biggest fear would be too much aggression loaded in this pair.

Hackez · 03-21-2011, 12:18 AM

Thanks for all of the advice.

I've decided to pass on this pairing. (Potential aggression/temperament issues)

RubyTuesday · 03-21-2011, 01:41 AM

Hackez, you've made a wise decision, IMO. Cliff & Lee are very knowledgeable with an excellent grasp of what people need in 'family dogs'.

03-20-2011, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hackez Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 26	Pedigree Opinion I went to see a GSD breeder in my area. They seem like responsible breeders. They have immaculate facilities, screen for health issues, etc. I have no idea how to properly analyze pedigrees though and was hoping for advice from those experienced with them. I know that parents have an enormous influence on a puppies temperament, drive, etc. This is a litter they have planned for later in the year. Sire: August Von Wentworth Haus - German shepherd dog Dam: Henshaws Freya Vom Sucherquelle - German shepherd dog We are planning to go with a male puppy since we already have two female pack members. (Family pet) Thoughts?

03-20-2011, 05:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 14,237	all I can say is I had a Zorro Laagerwall grandson (he is listed on the dam's ped) and was the best dawg I've ever had __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

03-20-2011, 05:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,214	I don't know any of the dogs personally and don't have any insight into them except that Freya has a lot of Grafentals (DDR) on her motherline. My pup has a lot of Grafental also and so far he's been awesome. August's mother Cora has/had hip dysplasia. August himself has good hips, but if I were looking into this litter I would want to see hip scores on Cora's siblings and offspring to make sure that her faulty hips are just a fluke and not something genetic. H __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

03-20-2011, 09:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
wolfstraum Crowned Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 7,088	Is that really a photo of August??? I know the guy who bred that litter (accidental litter - Ruger climbed fence while owner was away....female had NOT been OFA'd yet - she did definitely fail OFA) .... will send you a pm..... Lee __________________ Csabre Sch1, Hexe Sch2, Bengal, Kyra, Kira & Kougar v Wolfstraum ~ Basha Sch3, Ghost Sch3 - Danger Sch1 SAR - ATB/Ret - Kyra, Sch3, Alice Sch1, Kelsey, Fenja Sch3 wolfstraum.net

03-21-2011, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hackez Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 26	Thanks for all of the advice. I've decided to pass on this pairing. (Potential aggression/temperament issues) Last edited by Hackez; 03-21-2011 at 12:22 AM.

03-20-2011, 07:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hackez Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 26	Thanks for your input. Would appreciate more feedback!

03-20-2011, 10:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Shrap Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Glasgow, UK Posts: 58	I can't think of any reason a reputable breeder would breed from a dog with a dysplastic parent????

03-20-2011, 10:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
cliffson1 Knighted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,929	I think this breeding is kinda extreme on different sides of spectrum, but my biggest fear would be too much aggression loaded in this pair.

03-21-2011, 01:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
RubyTuesday Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,315	Hackez, you've made a wise decision, IMO. Cliff & Lee are very knowledgeable with an excellent grasp of what people need in 'family dogs'.

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