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Old 03-03-2011, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone care to comment? 6 gen. pedigree for Halo von Rokanhaus - German shepherd dog

Good or bad, I've love some input - she's my first working line shepherd.
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Alrighty then.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry, Debbie. Not my line of knowledge. Now...if you want to know about ASL, I could help you.
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I'd love to, but that stuff goes right over my head.

But from a novice like me, it's looks pretty darn impressive.
I'm sure someone else will be more helpful.
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I'm a novice on reading pedigrees too, but I know we do have many experienced working line people here. I'd love to know what they would expect to see based on the dogs in her pedigree.

I'm wondering if it's a situation of "can't say anything nice so I won't say anything at all"!
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I would just like to say that I think she is beautiful.
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Well, if you search here for Hannes, there's been some good info about him.

I have trouble being impartial b/c I know the breeder personally and have met Doc and am considering breeding a bitch to him in the next year or so.

I've seen some differing things out of Doc, including slow to mature dogs and some really big pups (all out of the same litter). But other of his pups are dynamite. So might depend strongly on the mother.

Hanuta has very strong dogs in her pedigree. From her father's side she gets some very strong dogs, hard dogs with a lot of attitude, and from her mother's side she gets low thresholds (Nick) and high prey (Nick and Jago); from Jago, you also get dogs who are known for huge grips in bitework and for handler hardness.

I like this combination and would expect the pups to be a handful--lots of attitude and potential, with a nice balance of (high) drives. Not likely to be couch potatoes and not likely to be good "beginner" dogs. (Although every litter will have a range of pups, of course, and some may have shown themselves to be mellower, calmer, as pups.)
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Thank you Christine! Impartiality is not particularly important to me, I'm looking for opinions, and the fact that you've met Doc actually gives you a better perspective than someone who hasn't, IMO.

Much of what you've said is spot on regarding Halo. I think she has been slower to mature, she's definitely not large at 60 pounds, but at least one of her littermates was much bigger, she has tons of attitude and lower thresholds than I'm used to with my previous GSDs (two Amline and two German showline). She can be a handful at times but I'm not finding her prey drive to be extremely high, certainly not as high as Keefer's. Or maybe it's just that it's been easy to direct it appropriately so it hasn't become a problem. She will try to herd the cats, but she won't hurt them.

Halo is definitely not a couch potato but she does has a good off switch and does not drive us crazy around the house. She plays hard and then sleeps hard. Since we've never had a working line dog before she's been a challenge, but I think that she's going to end up being an awesome dog, I'm just having to work at it harder than I would normally do!
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Anyone else?

I did do a search on her grand-sire Hannes, and saw that both Chris Wild and Lisa Clark had bred to him.
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Christine knows a heck of a lot more about pedigrees than I do.....

I like the pedigree, at least the names I recognize. Have a Jago daughter here, she'll be 13 next month and she's still very active, still bugging us to throw the ball. If I could clone her I would! She's such a wonderful dog, and beautiful too.
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