Feedback on these 2 dogs pedigrees

LuvourGSDs · 03-02-2011, 03:09 PM

Pros/Cons ? DDR/Czech ? How to know which dog is from what line ? Sorry, still novice at pedigrees.

~Thanks~

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/411782.html

Adolpha Ria - German shepherd dog

GSDElsa · 03-02-2011, 03:13 PM

Individually or how they would be paired together?

LuvourGSDs · 03-02-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GSDElsa

Individually or how they would be paired together?

Both.................

Any help on pedigree reading would also be great or links on how to do so.

I do know what some titles mean (not all & still confusing), just not how to tell 1 line from another.

~Thanks~

BlackthornGSD · 03-02-2011, 04:06 PM

Rex Ludwigseck is all DDR. He's a littermate to Ron v Ludwigseck and is closely related to my Xita (his two parents are Xita's father's father and her mother's mother).

The bitch goes back to Czech and West German lines. Ron v Bernhardt-Mader produced some very serious dogs, as did Gent od Police. I don't know the top side of the dam's pedigree, but it's all Czech, going back to old DDR lines.

I personally would not be interested in a pup out of those two dogs. I'd think you'd end up with some very civil dogs with only moderate prey drive. Good guard dogs. Should be handsome.

I'm not saying that I dislike the bloodlines--just that I don't think that the puppies would be my type of dog and it's not a breeding that I would choose to do.

I'd like to see some evidence of the dogs having been worked. And hip x-rays for the first 2 generations.

Christine

BucksMom · 03-02-2011, 04:16 PM

(some very civil dogs) What do you mean by this?

I want to make sure I understand.
Thanks

LuvourGSDs · 03-02-2011, 04:26 PM

Thanks Christine !

I also would like to know, why you wouldn't choose these 2 for a breeding ? Any clue to know if their drive would be, low,med,high ? Any clue on temps of these lines ? How do you tell via pedigree, what lines w/o knowing the dogs ? Here is a pic of 2 pups he has. I know not a great photo, but look like focused pups.

LuvourGSDs · 03-02-2011, 04:29 PM

BTW, Seen you said, mod drive, so med ?

Emoore · 03-02-2011, 04:33 PM

I sent this in a PM but figured I'd post it here too.
Rex is Kopper's grandpa. I've never met Rex but his son (Kopper's dad) is a fairly serious dog, very aloof with strangers but affectionate with his family, really a one-person dog. Lowish to moderate prey drive. His defense threshold is fairly high but again, very serious when it's turned on. Settles nicely in the house.

The breeder elected to breed him to a "hotter" bitch-- higher energy and higher prey drive and I feel like Kopper has a nice balance of the two

BlackthornGSD · 03-02-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BucksMom

(some very civil dogs) What do you mean by this?

I want to make sure I understand.
Thanks

By "some very civil" dogs -- I mean dogs who won't let you touch them unless you're their person. Dogs who won't let anyone in the house or near their crate. Dogs who are not scared of the person, necessarily, just very serious about telling strangers to stay away from their property (including crate, car, person, etc.) "Civil" in this context is, as I understand it, "dogs for civil service work" -- police, k-9, military bitework.

You put together dogs who are known for their defense, you're going to get a lot of defense in the puppies.

BlackthornGSD · 03-02-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvourGSDs

Thanks Christine !

I also would like to know, why you wouldn't choose these 2 for a breeding ? Any clue to know if their drive would be, low,med,high ? Any clue on temps of these lines ? How do you tell via pedigree, what lines w/o knowing the dogs ? Here is a pic of 2 pups he has. I know not a great photo, but look like focused pups.

I don't understand what you don't understand....

Pups are very cute.

03-02-2011, 03:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	Feedback on these 2 dogs pedigrees Pros/Cons ? DDR/Czech ? How to know which dog is from what line ? Sorry, still novice at pedigrees. ~Thanks~ http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/411782.html Adolpha Ria - German shepherd dog __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-02-2011, 03:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	Individually or how they would be paired together? __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

03-02-2011, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
BlackthornGSD Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 1,094	Rex Ludwigseck is all DDR. He's a littermate to Ron v Ludwigseck and is closely related to my Xita (his two parents are Xita's father's father and her mother's mother). The bitch goes back to Czech and West German lines. Ron v Bernhardt-Mader produced some very serious dogs, as did Gent od Police. I don't know the top side of the dam's pedigree, but it's all Czech, going back to old DDR lines. I personally would not be interested in a pup out of those two dogs. I'd think you'd end up with some very civil dogs with only moderate prey drive. Good guard dogs. Should be handsome. I'm not saying that I dislike the bloodlines--just that I don't think that the puppies would be my type of dog and it's not a breeding that I would choose to do. I'd like to see some evidence of the dogs having been worked. And hip x-rays for the first 2 generations. Christine __________________ Christine Blackthorn Working German Shepherds

03-02-2011, 04:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
BucksMom Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Where The Dogs Are OH Posts: 1,813	(some very civil dogs) What do you mean by this? I want to make sure I understand. Thanks __________________ Sherri & the 5 Holy Terrors... "In a perfect world, every dog would have a home and every home would have a dog. SL"

03-02-2011, 04:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	Thanks Christine ! I also would like to know, why you wouldn't choose these 2 for a breeding ? Any clue to know if their drive would be, low,med,high ? Any clue on temps of these lines ? How do you tell via pedigree, what lines w/o knowing the dogs ? Here is a pic of 2 pups he has. I know not a great photo, but look like focused pups. __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-02-2011, 04:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	BTW, Seen you said, mod drive, so med ? __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-02-2011, 04:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,214	I sent this in a PM but figured I'd post it here too. Rex is Kopper's grandpa. I've never met Rex but his son (Kopper's dad) is a fairly serious dog, very aloof with strangers but affectionate with his family, really a one-person dog. Lowish to moderate prey drive. His defense threshold is fairly high but again, very serious when it's turned on. Settles nicely in the house. The breeder elected to breed him to a "hotter" bitch-- higher energy and higher prey drive and I feel like Kopper has a nice balance of the two __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

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