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Old 06-03-2014, 02:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Per Dr. Dodds: The rabies vaccine should be thimerosal (mercury) – free – i.e. Merial IMRAB TF.
The 2 homeopathic's to give for a Rabies shot to minimize reaction is called Lyssin & Thuja.
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What's a killed vaccine? I thought her or someone else mentioned that

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What's a killed vaccine? I thought her or someone else mentioned that

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Dr. Jean Dodds' Pet Health Resource Blog | Vaccines: When too Much of a Good Thing Turns Bad (Part 2)
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Killed vaccine means that the virus in the sample is dead. It should not be able to convert into the actual disease and cause active disease. Modified live vaccines are the virus with a slight modification that leaves them inert, but the body will fight it. The killed vaccines require an adjuvant in order to make the body react, such as aluminum or egg protein.

Merial makes the safest vaccines, IMO. They have a line of recombinant vaccines that are extremely safe. Honestly since I started working in clinics, the amount of vaccine reactions has gone down dramatically. The companies have learned and gotten better products.

I wouldn't mess with rabies either. The disease is basically 100% fatal, contagious to us, and because of it's extreme mortality, required by law. Titer testing can get you around it, however I wouldn't hesitate to boost after a year them test. Just to be safe. Dealing with rabies suspect animals or if your pet bites someone, it's a way bigger hassle if they are up to date versus if they aren't. You get luckier when they are up to date.


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Lol kind of. Medicine and nutrition is not my thing. I'm not interested enough in it to make myself understand it.

I've read this before, understood a quarter)))))
I'll just ask for the rabies 3 year killed vaccine without the thimersoal. I don't have to understand it))))


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Killed vaccine means that the virus in the sample is dead. It should not be able to convert into the actual disease and cause active disease. Modified live vaccines are the virus with a slight modification that leaves them inert, but the body will fight it. The killed vaccines require an adjuvant in order to make the body react, such as aluminum or egg protein.

Merial makes the safest vaccines, IMO. They have a line of recombinant vaccines that are extremely safe. Honestly since I started working in clinics, the amount of vaccine reactions has gone down dramatically. The companies have learned and gotten better products.

I wouldn't mess with rabies either. The disease is basically 100% fatal, contagious to us, and because of it's extreme mortality, required by law. Titer testing can get you around it, however I wouldn't hesitate to boost after a year them test. Just to be safe. Dealing with rabies suspect animals or if your pet bites someone, it's a way bigger hassle if they are up to date versus if they aren't. You get luckier when they are up to date.


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This makes more sense. So what makes pets react to the vaccine? The fact that it's live or the additives?
And what does thimersoal do?


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"Dr. Dodds advocates the use of thimerosol (mercury) free rabies vaccines. Mercury added to killed, inactivated vaccines given to people and animals create an increased risk of adverse immune-mediated disease reactions. Recent published studies from Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld’s laboratory at Tel-Aviv University in Israel have documented this situation."
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"Dr. Dodds advocates the use of thimerosol (mercury) free rabies vaccines. Mercury added to killed, inactivated vaccines given to people and animals create an increased risk of adverse immune-mediated disease reactions. Recent published studies from Dr. Yehuda Shoenfeld’s laboratory at Tel-Aviv University in Israel have documented this situation."
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http://www.ima.org.il/FilesUpload/IMAJ/0/67/33611.pdf

Lol I'm not being rude, I do open the links and I do try to read them but it doesn't stick. I need the dumbed down versions.

I learned programming, some plumbing, some carpentry and a few other things on my own. But I'm interested enough to spend the time and dig and read. Medicine, nutrition, health are not my things. So I ask people to explain them

I know I can google it and I have and I usually don't understand what I'm reading.


But if it's mercury giving the reaction then why bother with the killed vaccines? Or there's a chance of the animal not developing immunity and getting the disease?


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But if it's mercury giving the reaction then why bother with the killed vaccines? Or there's a chance of the animal not developing immunity and getting the disease?


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Because rabies is 100% fatal. So they give the killed vaccine to induce the immune response. If they used a modified live vaccine then they would be giving your animal the actual virus to induce the immune response...and THAT would be 100% fatal.

Mercury is a heavy metal with very bad effects when put into our bodies. It's why you don't see mercury thermometers anymore.
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Because rabies is 100% fatal. So they give the killed vaccine to induce the immune response. If they used a modified live vaccine then they would be giving your animal the actual virus to induce the immune response...and THAT would be 100% fatal.

Mercury is a heavy metal with very bad effects when put into our bodies. It's why you don't see mercury thermometers anymore.

Now I'm lost. Why then do I have to ASK for a killed vaccine if the live vaccine would kill my dog?




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