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Old 08-14-2011, 08:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is always so much controversy over vaccines. Some argue about over vaccination and some argue over ones that some people consider useless etc.. I went to my parents for a vacation and got a list of vaccines offered at a low cost clinic for their dog and saw what I thought was one of the most useless vaccines EVER and after getting a good chuckle at it I decided to share with others that would find the same humor and uselessness as I did. I would love to also hear what vaccines others have seen that they consider useless. There was the classic bordatella etc.. but then at almost twice the cost of the other vaccines ($30) they had rattlesnake vaccinations available. Besides the obvious issues with vaccinating against a poisonous snake the best part of it was where I was... Northern Ohio/southern Michigan, not exactly an issue with ANY let alone an abundance of rattlesnakes.
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Hahaha. There is allot of controversy with the issue to be sure. I did a ton of research into it when my kids were born. My family has a very bad medical history with certain vaccinations. Bottom line I learned was that there are crazies on both sides of the issue and finding real information is a real PITA. It makes it very difficult to make real informed decisions. It is a bit easier with the pets, and there are fewer BS laws to work around.

I'm actually curious about the Rattle Snake one. I know a couple dogs down here in FL near my AO that have been bitten by snakes. I'm wondering if it is snake oil or actually effective. I do allot of camping and snakes are always a concern. I'm not sure how it would work; maybe it is similar to my immunity to iocane powder I have been working on
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Karlo's littermate lives in Texas and she has had the rattlesnake vaccine. Depends on where you live for that....I'd still be leary giving a vaccine that may have serious side effects.
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I think they're all pretty much useless except for the initial Parvo, Distemper, and Rabies vaccines.

Anything after the one year boosters are useless. Just titer when needed.
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I think they're all pretty much useless except for the initial Parvo, Distemper, and Rabies vaccines.

Anything after the one year boosters are useless. Just titer when needed.
What is "tilter"?
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What is "tilter"?
A titer is a blood test that measures the amount of antibodies present for which ever virus is being tested for, usually parvo, distemper & rabies.

The local vet wanted $500 for each when I asked, ie. $1500.
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What is "tilter"?
It's a blood test that tells the dogs immunity level to whatever they're testing for.

For example, if you get a parvo titer, they take some blood and they test the immunity level for parvo. If the blood test comes back that the immunity level is strong, there's no reason to booster.

Titers saves from having to give boosters when not needed. In my experience, most titers come back fine and there's no reason to ever booster past 1 year.

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A titer is a blood test that measures the amount of antibodies present for which ever virus is being tested for, usually parvo, distemper & rabies.

The local vet wanted $500 for each when I asked, ie. $1500.
That's pretty outrageous pricing. I don't titer for rabies, but combined Distemper and Parvo runs me something like $120. I'll only do it once every 3-4 years and they always come back strong.
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I think all vaccines are useless after the year booster for parvo, distemper and rabies. I dont titer because my vet also wants like $300 each. They do that so you just vaccinate instead. So I do neither.
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Jane thats my thing. There are so many side effects to any drug you give your dog that it really has to be beneficial in order to even consider giving it to the dog (IE good outweighs the bad) I don't see how you could vaccinate against rattlesnakes unless maybe it was a series to possibly build up the immunity?

Either way the biggest thing is it was in stinkin Toledo, Ohio right next to Temperance, Michigan what positive could that vaccine provide in that area that was worth the side effects of it or just the simple negative/risk of an extra chemical in the body.

Texas I wouldn't have really thought too much about the vaccine but in the area I was I definitely was a bit mind boggled over it.
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It's a blood test that tells the dogs immunity level to whatever they're testing for.

For example, if you get a parvo titer, they take some blood and they test the immunity level for parvo. If the blood test comes back that the immunity level is strong, there's no reason to booster.

Titers saves from having to give boosters when not needed. In my experience, most titers come back fine and there's no reason to ever booster past 1 year
Thanks LucyDog and Angelas.
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