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[Lauri & The Gang]

Originally Posted By: MochaI noticed that you Feed the RMB in the mornings; the MM and OM in the evening. I assume this is by design?

Yes. When I was working I liked the dogs to have all day to lay around and digest the bones.

Quote:He is going to be fairly active so I am estimating about 2.5lbs - 3lbs per day. I really want to feed him just once a day and was wondering what the thoughts are in regards to feeding schedules.

That's alot to feed in just one meal. If you are set on that I would go with an evening feeding. But - watch out for the Empty Tummy Urps. Raw is digested faster than kibble and even with two meals a day some dogs get ETUs after being switched to raw.

Quote: Also everyone gives tripe, is this supposed to be consiered an OM? What about the intestines (chitlings)? I have not seen any mention of these. I assume they fall in the same category as tripe and other OM?...Comments?

Tripe - GREEN tripe (not available in grocery stores) I feed as muscle meat. It's the stomach (a muscle) with some green matter still included.

Chitlings (the ones at the grocery stores) are usually pig intestines, cleaned. Those would be a muscle meat but not worth buying as there's no great reason to.

[Quiksilver]

What does OM and MM stand for? Thanks

[Martie]

Originally Posted By: QuiksilverWhat does OM and MM stand for? Thanks

OM is Organ Meat - http://www.rawdogranch.com/OrganMeat.htm

MM is Muscle Meat - http://www.rawdogranch.com/MuscleMeat.htm

RBM is Raw Meaty Bones - http://www.rawdogranch.com/RawMeatyBones.htm

[Quiksilver]

Originally Posted By: Martie

OM is Organ Meat - http://www.rawdogranch.com/OrganMeat.htm

MM is Muscle Meat - http://www.rawdogranch.com/MuscleMeat.htm

RBM is Raw Meaty Bones - http://www.rawdogranch.com/RawMeatyBones.htm

It all makes sense now! Thanks a lot! =D

[KG K9]

About how much are you all spending per month on food?

I believe right now I am spending about $50 on a 35lb or so bag of Innova LBP.

I figure my pup, 40 lbs and 3 months could eat about 16 oz RMB, 8oz MM, and 2oz of OM per DAY

Here is the prices I've found locally, NOT bulk.


RMB:
Bf Shank 16oz $2
11pc Chicken drum bag $4.50
Bf Soup Bone Meaty 16oz $1.59
Bf Neckbone 16oz. $2.39


MM:
Ground Bf 80 oz =5lbs $10
Canned Herring...small possibly 2 meals $1.09

OM:
Bf Liver 16oz $1.49
Bf Marrow Guts 16oz $0.99
Chk Liver 16oz $2.39

Throw in the cost of eggs here and there, along with other ok scraps.

I come to about $3.20/day and $90-95/month.

That is about DOUBLE what I am spending now.

Doesn't sound good to me. And I don't have room to store bulk frozen products.

[GSDSunshine]

Originally Posted By: KG K9About how much are you all spending per month on food?

I believe right now I am spending about $50 on a 35lb or so bag of Innova LBP.

I figure my pup, 40 lbs and 3 months could eat about 16 oz RMB, 8oz MM, and 2oz of OM per DAY

Here is the prices I've found locally, NOT bulk.


RMB:
Bf Shank 16oz $2
11pc Chicken drum bag $4.50
Bf Soup Bone Meaty 16oz $1.59
Bf Neckbone 16oz. $2.39


MM:
Ground Bf 80 oz =5lbs $10
Canned Herring...small possibly 2 meals $1.09

OM:
Bf Liver 16oz $1.49
Bf Marrow Guts 16oz $0.99
Chk Liver 16oz $2.39

Throw in the cost of eggs here and there, along with other ok scraps.

I come to about $3.20/day and $90-95/month.

That is about DOUBLE what I am spending now.

Doesn't sound good to me. And I don't have room to store bulk frozen products.

First, some of your RMBs are either not really practical for a pup his age/size or are not BMBs at all. The beef neck bones are going to be pretty hard, my 2 y/o can eat veal necks, but not beef, they are too dense, so a 3 month puppy will have problems. Also, the soup bones are recreational bones. Most of the beef bones are going to be too hard, and dense for eating. These animals weigh a ton (literally). When compared to a 6 pound bird....it is very different.

I just started buying in bulk, and before that I could find pretty good prices on meat at grocery stores and Walmart, Sams club...etc. You have to know where to look... and what to feed. Ground beef is going to be expensive, so is beef shank. Poultry is much cheaper.

Also take into account how much bone is actually in the product. Chicken wings and turkey necks are very bony. So you would feed those in smaller amounts than say a chicken quarter that is very meaty.

Here are some pricey that I have found in different stores.

RMB:
Chicken quarter $0.49/lb (Walmart)
Cornish Hens $1.49/lb (Sams Club)
Turkey necks $1.29/lb (Publix)
Chicken wings 10 lbs for $14.98 (Sams Club)
Chicken backs are usually cheap too

MM:
Ground Turkey 1 lb chub for $1.50
Beef Heart $1.18/lb (Publix)
Canned Mackerel 1.29 for a can
Chicken gizzards (not sure of exact price, but cheap)

Also....While I haven't bought it, you can also get chicken breast when they are on sale (saw 1.79/lb at Publix), and pork roasts (found on sale once for $0.99 a pound)

When I fed chicken quarters and Cornish hens, that was usually his meal, since the 1/4 i get are pretty meaty already.

For a week he could have meals like this. I use a 50/45/5 ratio when preparing diets that have very bony RMBs, instead of 60/35/5. My guy also does better with less bone so you can vary between the 2 ratios to find out what he does best on. Your amount also seems kinda low on the total amount. I calculated just a little over a pound and a half. If he weighs 30 ponds now, I would guess his 8 week weight would be around 20 pounds at least. So you would feed 10% of his weight then, which would be closer to 2 pounds of food. Unless you know his parents weight and can estimate how big he will get and then base the amount off of that. Obviously the amounts would change with the whatever weight he actually has and how much bone he needs in his diet, since it varies with each dog.


So with 50/45/5 and a total of 2 pounds of food daily, and only getting a week of food at one time. RMB= 16 oz, MM= 14.5 oz, OM= 1.5 oz

Meal ideas

1. Chicken wings, Chicken gizzards, chicken liver
2. Chicken Quarters (very meaty), beef liver
3. Turkey necks, ground turkey, Chicken liver
4. Turkey necks, beef heart, beef liver
5. Chicken backs, canned mackerel, beef liver

Since I don't have prices for everything, I will calculate the prices for the meals I do have prices for.


1. 1.50, 1.40, .14 = 3.05
2. 0.94, 0.14 = 1.08
3. 0.99, 1.36, .14 = 2.49
4. 0.99, 1.07, .14 = 2.20
5. 0.99, 0.84, .14 = 1.97

If you fed all meals equally, you would spend about 65 bucks a month. That is assuming you feed more food than calculated....However you notice some meals cost more than others. I would feed more chicken meals and less expensive meals.

Since you only have a small amount of room for storing food, I assume you dont want to keep all 5 meals in the fridge at one time, especailly since packages will vary by size and things like that.

If you fed a 5 days of food and say 2 days was meal 2, and 2 days he had meal 4, and 1 day was meal 5, it would cost you approximately 8.50 to feed. In 30 days it would cost you approx 51 bucks.

Granted you would add in extras and treats, but that was also for 2 pounds per day.... at your amount to feed per day it would come to about 42, then add in eggs (say 4 per 5 days...or 2 dozen per month for an additional say 5 dollars a month) and you total out to 56 or 47 per month depending on the amount you feed. Hope this helps a little. Sorry it was SOOOOO long.

[GSDSunshine]

And my calculations were for 30 day months, not 28 day months.

[mockbam5]

So my puppy weights 25 pounds and is 10 weeks old. The father was almost 90 pounds and the mom 73 pounds. How much raw food should I be feeding my puppy? Right now I'm feeding him 1/2 a pound per meal, 3 times a day.

[H8Rain]

Question, for the fruits and veggies, to make things easy, could I use baby food? Nothing with additives (like onion powder which is a big no-no) just straight pureed fruits and veggies.

Thanks.

[Lauri & The Gang]

If you feel the need to add fruits and veggies, baby food would work. Just watch out for added sugar.

Instead of F&V (which dog's do not really need) why not try fresh green tripe? It is much closer to the type of green stuff they would naturally eat.