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katdog5911 02-17-2014 03:28 PM

Just started raw and having some issues...
 
It's been a week of Stella being on raw. I am using premade raw.

Observations I have made....

1.-She is shedding like crazy!!!!! Some of her hair is coming out in clumps. She always was a shedder but it has reached new levels.
2.-She has started itching like crazy too. She has always been an itchy girl but it seemed to have calmed down a bit up until this week. She has had chicken this week, so maybe she is sensitive to that? Switched her today to turkey. Hope it makes a difference. On kibble she was on salmon.
3.-She seems soooooo hungry. Had a couple of days of throwing up bile but not the last few.
4.-Her coat feels sooooooo soft. Can that actually happen that fast?
5.-Best poop ever! She has always had poop that was on the softer side but it has firmed right up.

So, can any of the above be due to the raw in such a short span of time????

Flutter 02-17-2014 04:24 PM

It could be she's having an issue with chicken. I'd switch to a more different protein like pork/boar/beef/lamb instead of turkey. Be aware that if she has an issue with chicken then it can take several weeks for that reaction to disappear.

The shedding could be some form of detox or could be related to the increase itching/a reaction to the chicken.

The poop change is definitely due to the raw. Poop from raw fed dogs is a million times better than kibble fed dogs. Raw food is so much more digestible than kibble so their poop is much less offensive :)

carmspack 02-17-2014 04:29 PM

she could be "house cleaning" , dogs initially will shed and can be dandruffy -- coat is being replaced as is the skin --
there is a detox period .

What else is in the premade raw -- sometimes the "vegetables" are not the best , or appropriate .

Hungry , you may have to adjust the amounts you are giving .

katdog5911 02-17-2014 04:44 PM

There are some veggies in the mix. Didn't think about that.

As to chicken allergy- she has had boiled chicken and rice in the past when she was not feeling well....don't really recall an increase in her itchiness. Just funny how she has gotten sooooo itchy and "sheddy" this week.

I don't know if I can afford some of the other meats on a regular basis. Chicken and turkey are the most economical....

Harry and Lola 02-17-2014 05:48 PM

When you say premade, do you mean foods like BARF BARF Australia - Biologically Appropriate Raw Food ?

If so, why don't you purchase the pork version, as pork is an excellent protein that has really good results with allergies and a level of EFAs that assist with coat and skin conditions.

If not premade, then see if you can buy some human grade pork and mix in with some ground lamb and give a turkey neck as bone.

Also I have recently discovered coconut oil and have been using for a month now, I have noticed both Harry and Lola are not scratching as much - something to consider

katdog5911 02-17-2014 07:06 PM

Premade raw-everything is already ground up and ready to eat.

I will have to look into pork.

I started coconut oil several weeks ago. I did notice less itching. I overlooked it this past week, I was so focused on the raw....started again today though. Maybe that was what helped!

I just want to do the right thing for my girl. I know she has some environmental allergies. Never tested for food.

I am just concerned that her hair is coming out in clumps all of a sudden. Although her coat and skin look and feel nice....

And her ear is bothering her. But that started before the raw. It seemed to improve and now is bothering her again.... Hmmmmm....maybe the coconut was really helping??!111

Harry and Lola 02-20-2014 06:34 AM

Yes I think coconut oil is a super food, I'd get her back on this.

cci058 02-21-2014 04:01 PM

Just my opinion here, others may not agree, but here it is..... Dogs only need meat, bone and organ. Fruits and veggies are not properly or naturally digested by dogs and can cause inflammatory reactions in the gut that eventually manifest themselves through the skin and other ways. These inflammations never really resolve as long as the fruits and veggies are fed. Then certain proteins may irritate the already inflamed area and then the dogs is labeled as "allergic" to that protein. No carnivore is truly "allergic" to any meat source. I recommend feeding only meat bone and organ, Letting the gut heal and the inflamed areas calm down and I think you will have one happy pup!

SuperG 02-21-2014 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cci058 (Post 5062866)
Just my opinion here, others may not agree, but here it is..... Dogs only need meat, bone and organ. Fruits and veggies are not properly or naturally digested by dogs and can cause inflammatory reactions in the gut that eventually manifest themselves through the skin and other ways. These inflammations never really resolve as long as the fruits and veggies are fed. Then certain proteins may irritate the already inflamed area and then the dogs is labeled as "allergic" to that protein. No carnivore is truly "allergic" to any meat source. I recommend feeding only meat bone and organ, Letting the gut heal and the inflamed areas calm down and I think you will have one happy pup!


Interesting......sounds easy enough for those with problems to give a try.

SuperG

Flutter 02-21-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cci058 (Post 5062866)
No carnivore is truly "allergic" to any meat source.

Do you have any reputable references for this?


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