Calcium supplement vs bones

LissG · 01-07-2013, 07:33 PM

Can you swap out bones and replace it with a calcium supplement?

Jax08 · 01-07-2013, 08:00 PM

You can. I use eggshells in Banshee's food because she has crf. But unless there is a health issue, why would you want to?

LissG · 01-07-2013, 08:04 PM

the bones keep getting stuck. i'm looking to change to a kibble but i'm having a hard time accepting that lol i feel like raw is just so much healthier

onyx'girl · 01-07-2013, 08:13 PM

You weren't able to get a local source for ground raw?

Jax08 · 01-07-2013, 08:24 PM

oh....well, you could grind the bones. I have a tasin grinder that handles necks well. Save your egg shells, bake them and then grind them in a coffee grinder.
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**lhczth** · 01-07-2013, 08:28 PM

I, personally, would attempt to find a source for raw ground before going to kibble if you would like to stay with raw.

**Castlemaid** · 01-07-2013, 09:44 PM

Do you feed chicken bones? Do those get stuck too? In your other thread you were talking about beef and pork neck bones - I don't give those to my dogs. They get rib bones, knuckle bones, and lot of chicken bones. Chicken bones are hollow, lightweight, and soft. I tested it by biting down on a raw chicken thigh bone, it was like biting down on a cracker - that is how soft they are.

In order for the metabolism to use calcium, it needs to be balanced with the correct ration of phosphorus and a boat-load of other minor minerals. The beauty of feeding bone is that it comes pre-packaged with the exact ratios of the all the nutrients and minerals needed to properly utilize the calcium in the body. Supplementing with only Calcium to replace bones in a raw diet is missing out on proper nutrition. So if your dog has issues with eating bones, try feeding the raw food ground up, as suggested.

GatorBytes · 01-07-2013, 10:34 PM

I believe the problem was the dog won't touch chicken...

You can add ground eggshells as mentioned...1/2tsp per pound of food (900mg)

Verivus · 01-08-2013, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlemaid

In order for the metabolism to use calcium, it needs to be balanced with the correct ration of phosphorus and a boat-load of other minor minerals. The beauty of feeding bone is that it comes pre-packaged with the exact ratios of the all the nutrients and minerals needed to properly utilize the calcium in the body. Supplementing with only Calcium to replace bones in a raw diet is missing out on proper nutrition. So if your dog has issues with eating bones, try feeding the raw food ground up, as suggested.

This. Calcium is not the only thing that raw bones provide, it just happens to be the only one most people are aware of.

Jax08 · 01-08-2013, 08:28 AM

Bones are actually very high in phosphorus as well. Calcium binds to phosphorus and washes it out of the system. I'm not sure the long term affects of feeding a calcium supplement, even egg shells which are natural, without the rest of the minerals to balance it. I would assume it would then bind to the phosphorus in the rest of the food and possibly cause a nutritional imbalance. I would strongly advice you look at getting a grinder or a RAW ground supplier or talk to a nutritionist about keeping his diet balanced.

01-07-2013, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
LissG Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 550	Calcium supplement vs bones Can you swap out bones and replace it with a calcium supplement? __________________ ~~Melissa~~ add Wolf on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00002684629115 Wolf 7/9/11 you picked me

01-07-2013, 08:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 19,009	You can. I use eggshells in Banshee's food because she has crf. But unless there is a health issue, why would you want to? __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

01-07-2013, 08:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
LissG Master Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 550	the bones keep getting stuck. i'm looking to change to a kibble but i'm having a hard time accepting that lol i feel like raw is just so much healthier __________________ ~~Melissa~~ add Wolf on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00002684629115 Wolf 7/9/11 you picked me

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onyx'girl Crowned Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SW, MI Posts: 21,179	You weren't able to get a local source for ground raw? __________________ Jane~ Kept by Onyx, Kacie and Gideon v Wildhaus aka Karlo

01-07-2013, 08:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 19,009	oh....well, you could grind the bones. I have a tasin grinder that handles necks well. Save your egg shells, bake them and then grind them in a coffee grinder. https://www.facebook.com/notes/crf-d...94260780605680 __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

01-07-2013, 08:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
lhczth Administrator & LOTR Addict Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 13,718	I, personally, would attempt to find a source for raw ground before going to kibble if you would like to stay with raw. __________________ Lisa Clark Zu Treuen Händen Working German Shepherd Dogs *South Michigan SchH and Police Club*

01-07-2013, 09:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Castlemaid The Administrator from the Great White North, eh? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 11,173	Do you feed chicken bones? Do those get stuck too? In your other thread you were talking about beef and pork neck bones - I don't give those to my dogs. They get rib bones, knuckle bones, and lot of chicken bones. Chicken bones are hollow, lightweight, and soft. I tested it by biting down on a raw chicken thigh bone, it was like biting down on a cracker - that is how soft they are. In order for the metabolism to use calcium, it needs to be balanced with the correct ration of phosphorus and a boat-load of other minor minerals. The beauty of feeding bone is that it comes pre-packaged with the exact ratios of the all the nutrients and minerals needed to properly utilize the calcium in the body. Supplementing with only Calcium to replace bones in a raw diet is missing out on proper nutrition. So if your dog has issues with eating bones, try feeding the raw food ground up, as suggested. __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH

01-07-2013, 10:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
GatorBytes Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 2,146	I believe the problem was the dog won't touch chicken... You can add ground eggshells as mentioned...1/2tsp per pound of food (900mg) __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. - Unknown

01-08-2013, 08:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 19,009	Bones are actually very high in phosphorus as well. Calcium binds to phosphorus and washes it out of the system. I'm not sure the long term affects of feeding a calcium supplement, even egg shells which are natural, without the rest of the minerals to balance it. I would assume it would then bind to the phosphorus in the rest of the food and possibly cause a nutritional imbalance. I would strongly advice you look at getting a grinder or a RAW ground supplier or talk to a nutritionist about keeping his diet balanced. __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

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