Shoulder Roast?

Draugr · 07-09-2011, 04:05 PM

I've been feeding prey-model raw since late February. I've got a couple pork shoulder roasts sitting in the bottom of the freezer that I haven't fed yet because TBH I'm not entirely sure how to do so. All of my dog's bone-in items have been chicken parts to date. I know that he should not be chewing on the bone part of the shoulder roast since they are large weight-bearing bones but is there anything else I need to do to set this up right?

Freestep · 07-09-2011, 05:24 PM

Thaw the shoulder and cut it into chunks. I usually make them small enough not to choke the dog, but you could also leave it in bigger chunks so that the dog gets some chewing out of it. I do take the bone out.

**Castlemaid** · 07-09-2011, 06:10 PM

When people say "prey model" I'm not sure what they mean as there seems to be different feeding philosophies that go by that name.

I often get whole shoulder roasts as they are often on sale, along with whole legs of pork. I cut it up into bite size chunks with the skin on, and freeze portions in one, two, three or four servings at a time (for two dogs). I use it to round out the MM when feeding turkey necks or chicken backs as as the RMB. I separate the bones and freeze them individually and the use them as recreational bones.

My two tolerate raw pork very well and it is a big part of their diet. They eat the cartiledge off the bones and leave the middle parts.

Freestep · 07-09-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Castlemaid

When people say "prey model" I'm not sure what they mean as there seems to be different feeding philosophies that go by that name.

When I get a chicken that goes belly-up for no apparent reason, I just hand it over to my Akbash dog... feet, head, feathers, and all. That's what I would call "prey model". He knows exactly what to do with dead chickens, yet won't touch a live one.

My older GSD will not eat home-raised chicken raw, no matter what I do, so no "prey model" for her. My puppy, on the other hand, had a prey model breakfast this morning.

Draugr · 07-09-2011, 07:56 PM

"Prey model" is mimicking a wild diet - 80% meat, 10% bone, 5% liver, 5% other secreting organ.

"Whole prey" IS a wild diet, you are feeding an entire animal at once to a dog. It isn't "prey model" because you aren't modeling it after anything - it IS as natural as you can realistically get.

At least that's the distinction I go by (and what most people I meet assume "prey model" means). I don't know if there is an official stance on that or not.

Mine gets a little more bone and a little less meat than he probably should but the organs are spot on.

Thanks for the tips. I will thaw those out and cut them up for future feedings. To date he's only had turkey, chicken, and beef.

**Castlemaid** · 07-09-2011, 09:13 PM

If your dog hasn't had pork before, start small - some dogs seem to have problems with pork and get runny poops and bad gas.

Draugr · 07-10-2011, 08:31 AM

Will do! I generally introduce new proteins in small amounts for a week or two before I feed an entire meal that is mostly made up of the new protein.

malinois_16 · 07-11-2011, 12:17 AM

I dont feel comfortable feeding big bones like that. So any of the ones I get I debone. But my pork source is mostly Tongues

**Lauri & The Gang** · 07-13-2011, 08:47 PM

Pork hearts are GREAT!!

07-09-2011, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Draugr Master Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 677	Shoulder Roast? I've been feeding prey-model raw since late February. I've got a couple pork shoulder roasts sitting in the bottom of the freezer that I haven't fed yet because TBH I'm not entirely sure how to do so. All of my dog's bone-in items have been chicken parts to date. I know that he should not be chewing on the bone part of the shoulder roast since they are large weight-bearing bones but is there anything else I need to do to set this up right?

07-09-2011, 05:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Freestep Knighted Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 3,087	Thaw the shoulder and cut it into chunks. I usually make them small enough not to choke the dog, but you could also leave it in bigger chunks so that the dog gets some chewing out of it. I do take the bone out. __________________ Luka von Sontausen, CD Vinca von Sontausen, CGC Freestep's Beluga Whale, BWD

07-09-2011, 06:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,088	When people say "prey model" I'm not sure what they mean as there seems to be different feeding philosophies that go by that name. I often get whole shoulder roasts as they are often on sale, along with whole legs of pork. I cut it up into bite size chunks with the skin on, and freeze portions in one, two, three or four servings at a time (for two dogs). I use it to round out the MM when feeding turkey necks or chicken backs as as the RMB. I separate the bones and freeze them individually and the use them as recreational bones. My two tolerate raw pork very well and it is a big part of their diet. They eat the cartiledge off the bones and leave the middle parts. __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

07-09-2011, 09:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Castlemaid Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northern British Columbia Posts: 9,088	If your dog hasn't had pork before, start small - some dogs seem to have problems with pork and get runny poops and bad gas. __________________ Lucia Keeta BH, OB1, TR1, AD (HOT) Rottweiler/Hairy Dog mix?? Shelter rescue Gryffon Vom Wildhaus BH, OFA Good (HOT) "Bites Through the Sleeve" Cuddlebug, b: Mar 2009

07-13-2011, 08:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lauri & The Gang Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: SouthEastern WI Posts: 12,522	Pork hearts are GREAT!! __________________ Lauri & The Raw Fed Gang Raw Dog Ranch Tazer HIC CGC – Cocker Winnie CGC - Corgi Mix Chimanes Spice it Up Piquin (Kaynya) - Chinese Crested Sasha - GSD mix Nator von Triton HIC CGC (Mauser) - LC GSD Piquins Some Like it Hot (Spike) – Chinese Crested Piquins Too Hot To Handle - Fuego (Chinese Crested)

07-09-2011, 07:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Draugr Master Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 677	"Prey model" is mimicking a wild diet - 80% meat, 10% bone, 5% liver, 5% other secreting organ. "Whole prey" IS a wild diet, you are feeding an entire animal at once to a dog. It isn't "prey model" because you aren't modeling it after anything - it IS as natural as you can realistically get. At least that's the distinction I go by (and what most people I meet assume "prey model" means). I don't know if there is an official stance on that or not. Mine gets a little more bone and a little less meat than he probably should but the organs are spot on. Thanks for the tips. I will thaw those out and cut them up for future feedings. To date he's only had turkey, chicken, and beef.

07-10-2011, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Draugr Master Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 677	Will do! I generally introduce new proteins in small amounts for a week or two before I feed an entire meal that is mostly made up of the new protein.

07-11-2011, 12:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
malinois_16 Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 743	I dont feel comfortable feeding big bones like that. So any of the ones I get I debone. But my pork source is mostly Tongues

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