Running Contacts or Not?

[LuvourGSDs]

Just wondered who all uses his method? Why do you like this method? Do you wish you would have trained different?

I so far have been training the 2o2o way with pup & havin my older female wait on contacts. I feel this probably does slow my older gal expecting to have to wait.

I just ask this as I was surprised to read SG training this way with her pup Swagger & thought she was a big 2o2o person.

[I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO]

You're going to find that everyone has their own opinion on this- and honestly not one opinion is right. You have to find what works best for your dog. Also, there's not just 2o2o and running, there's also 4o and probably others too. For the dog walk I use a stop command for all four paws on, in trials this translates into a running contact, but gets him to run to the bottom. His teetor and a-frame are running. I prefer not to use 2o2o because of the jamming into the ground on the a-frame. I taught a running on the a-frame by targeting the bottom of the a-frame, so this started like a 4o also.

If your only concern with 2o2o is that it takes more time, I believe people have made other threads on this topic, complete with videos, to show that it doesn't really take any more time.

[wildo]

There's a lot of good info here on the topic: Running dogwalk anyone?

[LuvourGSDs]

Ok, thanks.

I just have always been concerned with our big breed trying to
stop with a 2o2o. Just the force....

I was taught to use this method with the pup. I know SO many diff ways, just wanting to do correct here & not back pedal trying to correct my mistakes.

[kbella999]

One of my gsd's has "fast walking" or "slow running" contacts. I wish I knew how to train that as that is just how she always did it. My 2nd gsd is much faster and I have him do a 2o2o on the dog walk and a 1RT (One Rear Toe) on the A-frame. He has no stopping on the teeter. I taught him the "bang game" on it so he slams the teeter and runs off. I also tried the 4otf with my 2nd dog but that didn't work out for us. I like the 1RT but may change to running. Will just have to see. Every dog is differnt.

[wildo]

WOW! People actually use the 1RTO method!? Interesting.

[gsdheeler]

With my male I used 2o2o for all contact equip. He did end up having shoulder problems, (did xrays, it's soft tissue). He's retired.
With my girl I'm doing 2o2o on the dog DW and Teter. Running contacts on the A frame. I'll never know if coming to a full stop on the A frame caused his shoulder problem,but that was the deciding factor in teaching a running contact for the A frame.

[LuvourGSDs]

Originally Posted by gsdheeler

With my male I used 2o2o for all contact equip. He did end up having shoulder problems, (did xrays, it's soft tissue). He's retired.
With my girl I'm doing 2o2o on the dog DW and Teter. Running contacts on the A frame. I'll never know if coming to a full stop on the A frame caused his shoulder problem,but that was the deciding factor in teaching a running contact for the A frame.

Hey thanks. This is what I have always worried about & mainly on the A-frame. Such a pitch to try & slow them on.
Sorry about your boy.

I have never heard of the RTO method & I bet that is fun to teach.

[wildo]

Originally Posted by LuvourGSDs

I have never heard of the RTO method & I bet that is fun to teach.

http://www.awesomepaws.us/pdf/Reprint_OneRearToe.pdf

I read that article a while ago and came away laughing. I couldn't believe that people would actually train that. I guess perhaps I should have taken it more seriously... I really didn't think people actually trained it.

[gsdheeler]

I went to a seminar a few years ago given by Dr. Chris Zink DVM. She has a few books out on jumping and agility. I know she runs her oun dogs in agility. At the seminar
She showed slow motion videos of how dogs are using their bodies and it was an eye opener. That was another thing that made me rethink some of my training.