Why won't AKC and USDAA make a breakaway tire??

GermanShepherd<3 · 08-18-2011, 08:29 PM

I remember USDAA had it before but from what I understood they returned to a regular tire.
I don't understand what the big deal is of changing tires? The only thing different is it reduces injury..especially for the larger dogs. And quality tires are not flimsy and only break when there is enough force...
While it may be more "rare" to have a tire accident, is it good for a dog to break something or even get killed for 5 seconds of a tire? Even if the dog is okay, if it's not an agility nut who lives for agility, imagine the negative associations that dog would have with a tire again. Shoot if I got hurt in a tire I would probably never go into a tire again either if someone doesn't bribe me with a million dollars..

What are your opinions on this matter?

GermanShepherd<3 · 08-18-2011, 08:30 PM

Or just remove the tire completely?? It's technically like a regular thicker jump. Why not use one of the "wall" jumps (not panel jumps) like in the world sports agility competitions.

I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO · 08-18-2011, 10:03 PM

Every USDAA trial I've been to has had a breakaway tire.

wildo · 08-18-2011, 10:17 PM

Yes, I also thought USDAA was using a breakaway tire. Not always (my training facility did not like it and sent it back). But I did think it was used still in USDAA.

I don't know enough about the topic, but will definitely monitor this thread. I can tell you- my instructor and many instructors at the facility really disliked it for some reason.

wildo · 08-18-2011, 10:18 PM

BTW- here's an article (which I haven't yet read, but am in the process) on the topic: AgilityNerd : Do We Need to Change the Tire?

GermanShepherd<3 · 08-19-2011, 12:26 AM

while i was watching an agility trial i asked why it was a regular tire and some said that they believe they are bringing regular tires back or that it's not really mandatory. Okay lets say that the USDAA still uses them but what about AKC? Wildo, if you don't mind it would be really interesting to see why your club didn't like the tire..
Thanks for the link, I like it!!

wildo · 08-19-2011, 12:30 AM

Yes, after reading that link, it seems a lot of people are in favor... I will ask around and try to find out why they didn't like it. I don't have class again until Tuesday.

TaraM1285 · 08-19-2011, 11:55 AM

My facility back in Virginia just switched to using a breakaway tire. I had no issues with either that or the regular one. Watching what some of the dogs do to the tire makes it clear why the breakaway one could be a lot safer and more desirable.

GermanShepherd<3 · 08-19-2011, 03:13 PM

Thanks Wildo

By the way your agility videos are always a pleasure to watch, and Pimg just rocked those weaves! It's nice to see more shepherds involved in agility.

TaraM1285: Have you ever seen those nasty accidents on youtube with dogs?

Cheetah's tire crash 8-17-08 - YouTube

bad agility tire crash - YouTube

And look how this breakaway tire prevented a major accident:

Spirit Team Gamblers - THANK YOU breakaway tires!!!! - YouTube

GermanShepherd<3 · 08-19-2011, 03:13 PM

The last one was at a USDAA competition, since it's Gamblers.

08-18-2011, 08:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
GermanShepherd<3 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74	Why won't AKC and USDAA make a breakaway tire?? I remember USDAA had it before but from what I understood they returned to a regular tire. I don't understand what the big deal is of changing tires? The only thing different is it reduces injury..especially for the larger dogs. And quality tires are not flimsy and only break when there is enough force... While it may be more "rare" to have a tire accident, is it good for a dog to break something or even get killed for 5 seconds of a tire? Even if the dog is okay, if it's not an agility nut who lives for agility, imagine the negative associations that dog would have with a tire again. Shoot if I got hurt in a tire I would probably never go into a tire again either if someone doesn't bribe me with a million dollars.. What are your opinions on this matter?

08-18-2011, 10:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO Knighted Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 2,242	Every USDAA trial I've been to has had a breakaway tire. __________________ Mikko GM, RM, AAD, ASA, SJ, SS, EAC, EJC, TN-E, TG-E, WV-O, OCC, HP-O, VerO, NAJ, CGC - 6 year old GSD

08-18-2011, 10:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
wildo Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,229	Yes, I also thought USDAA was using a breakaway tire. Not always (my training facility did not like it and sent it back). But I did think it was used still in USDAA. I don't know enough about the topic, but will definitely monitor this thread. I can tell you- my instructor and many instructors at the facility really disliked it for some reason. __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL1-R, CL1-S, CL1-F, CGC

08-18-2011, 10:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
wildo Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,229	BTW- here's an article (which I haven't yet read, but am in the process) on the topic: AgilityNerd : Do We Need to Change the Tire? __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL1-R, CL1-S, CL1-F, CGC

08-19-2011, 12:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
wildo Knighted Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,229	Yes, after reading that link, it seems a lot of people are in favor... I will ask around and try to find out why they didn't like it. I don't have class again until Tuesday. __________________ Willy Pimg - DOB: 2/06, CL1-R, CL1-S, CL1-F, CGC

08-18-2011, 08:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
GermanShepherd<3 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74	Or just remove the tire completely?? It's technically like a regular thicker jump. Why not use one of the "wall" jumps (not panel jumps) like in the world sports agility competitions.

08-19-2011, 12:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
GermanShepherd<3 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74	while i was watching an agility trial i asked why it was a regular tire and some said that they believe they are bringing regular tires back or that it's not really mandatory. Okay lets say that the USDAA still uses them but what about AKC? Wildo, if you don't mind it would be really interesting to see why your club didn't like the tire.. Thanks for the link, I like it!!

08-19-2011, 11:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
TaraM1285 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 355	My facility back in Virginia just switched to using a breakaway tire. I had no issues with either that or the regular one. Watching what some of the dogs do to the tire makes it clear why the breakaway one could be a lot safer and more desirable. __________________ Kristin Tara CGC - GSD 2008 Suli - Blue Kitty 2006

08-19-2011, 03:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
GermanShepherd<3 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 74	The last one was at a USDAA competition, since it's Gamblers.

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