~Lines~

LuvourGSDs · 03-01-2011, 11:56 AM

Hello....... This goes out to all you agility people that compete or have competed.

Just wondering what lines you have felt do best in this sport ? Not wanting to get a dog to win, win, win, (It tis nice though

) just to have great focus, enjoy to work, have the drive, etc. Not sure when it comes to DDR, are they to heavy bodied, blocky, etc for this sport ? I know the Czech dogs are more streamline & seem very fit for it, but I also don't want a crazy, over the top, BC type either. I am a go, go person, just not 24/7.

Not into the very high drives that bark at ya, nip at ya, hard to focus because ready to go, BC mode, etc..........

I know German WL for sure needed for this sport. I just see............100% DDR, 100% Czech, West Working mixed with either, etc, East Working mixed, DDR/Czech combo, etc......................

Thanks for any info..........

LuvourGSDs · 03-01-2011, 12:00 PM

BTW, What line do you have or had ? Their weights at adults ? Did 1 line you had do better than currect or vice versa ?

~Thanks~

LaRen616 · 03-01-2011, 12:03 PM

I just wanted to say that all lines can have different drives in their litters. They can have super drivey/sport pups and they can have medium drive family pups.

Kayos and Havoc · 03-01-2011, 12:17 PM

I do not think the line matters so much as how each pup is built physically and mentally. Shyne at Guardyan kennels competes very succesfully with WGSL. MaggieRoseLee has working lines that she is very successful with.

Elaine · 03-01-2011, 01:05 PM

I have a WGWL dog and he's a blast! He's doing very well in agility and we're well on our way to his MACH.

If you want an agility dog and you want to do well, you are going to want a drivey, well built, structurally sound, agile dog.

**Andaka** · 03-01-2011, 01:05 PM

And there are people who do very well with American Show Lines. Julie Degen for one.

LuvourGSDs · 03-01-2011, 02:10 PM

Not saying any line can not do this work.

I have a West German SL boy that does fairly well, just a big boy.

When looking into the world of sables per say, seems many are DDR & Czech. Just wondered I guess of the build on DDR dogs, if too heavy bodied ? I get ya on drives.

Me not into very high/high crazy................

~Thanks~

GSD07 · 03-01-2011, 05:17 PM

I think it's a myth that DDR are heavy bodied big headed dump trucks. Sure there are some like that but many are not. My dog is 25.5in/76lb at his 3yo, and as agile as it gets.

AgileGSD · 03-01-2011, 05:19 PM

I have done agility with two Amlines and a West German showline (predominantly WGSL anyway). My Amline girl liked it but wasn't real drivey. My Amline boy was fairly drivey and enjoyed it but was big and had a lot of rear so something were awkward for him. My WGSL was outstanding in terms of drive and ability. She had a much more compact body than either of the Amlines and was absolutely loved agility. People were always surprised by her speed when they first saw her run. I probably would go for a German working line the next time around because I think it would be easier to find what I want in that but the right dog from any line can do well in agility. Just be sure to avoid exaggerations in structure that are common in some lines of show dogs (both American and German). Excessive length and agulation of the rear legs causes jumping and turning issues. Exaggerated roached backs can cause all around awkward movement. Being "down" in the pasterns and/or hocks will also affect the dog's athletic ability.

FWIW there is a recent thread in another section about this topic. If I want an agility dog..

GSDElsa · 03-01-2011, 05:23 PM

I would say small working line female.

Elsa LOVES agility, but she isn't super quick. She's about 68 pounds and is built kind of masculine. If I was to ever really want to trial in agility I'd probably go with something a litle finer boned and smaller.

03-01-2011, 11:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	~Lines~ Hello....... This goes out to all you agility people that compete or have competed. Just wondering what lines you have felt do best in this sport ? Not wanting to get a dog to win, win, win, (It tis nice though ) just to have great focus, enjoy to work, have the drive, etc. Not sure when it comes to DDR, are they to heavy bodied, blocky, etc for this sport ? I know the Czech dogs are more streamline & seem very fit for it, but I also don't want a crazy, over the top, BC type either. I am a go, go person, just not 24/7. Not into the very high drives that bark at ya, nip at ya, hard to focus because ready to go, BC mode, etc.......... I know German WL for sure needed for this sport. I just see............100% DDR, 100% Czech, West Working mixed with either, etc, East Working mixed, DDR/Czech combo, etc...................... Thanks for any info.......... __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-01-2011, 12:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	BTW, What line do you have or had ? Their weights at adults ? Did 1 line you had do better than currect or vice versa ? ~Thanks~ __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-01-2011, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
LaRen616 Crowned Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 10,582	I just wanted to say that all lines can have different drives in their litters. They can have super drivey/sport pups and they can have medium drive family pups. __________________ ~ Sinister 3 yr old black male GSD 3.11.09 ~ Malice 9 mth old black female GSD 6.19.11 Cats: Chaos, Monster, Wicked

03-01-2011, 12:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kayos and Havoc Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McAlester, OK Posts: 16,921	I do not think the line matters so much as how each pup is built physically and mentally. Shyne at Guardyan kennels competes very succesfully with WGSL. MaggieRoseLee has working lines that she is very successful with. __________________ Kathy The Wrecking Crew URO3, UCD "Kayos" CD,TDX,RE,CGC,HIC,TC URO1, UCD "Havoc" CDX,GN,RE,CGC,HIC,TC,BH At the Bridge: Lucky, Wolf, Max Gone but never forgotten

03-01-2011, 01:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Elaine Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,778	I have a WGWL dog and he's a blast! He's doing very well in agility and we're well on our way to his MACH. If you want an agility dog and you want to do well, you are going to want a drivey, well built, structurally sound, agile dog. __________________ Elaine and the herd

03-01-2011, 01:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Andaka "I like Daffy" Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Douglas, IL ( near St. Louis) Posts: 2,435	And there are people who do very well with American Show Lines. Julie Degen for one. __________________ Daphne and the Gang at Andaka Where Beauty and Brains Come Together http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/germ...&results_in=10 Home of Ch Natty; Ch Doll; Jag RA (ch ptd); Sara RN (ch ptd); Bella (the new one); and Fisher (Mr. Evil) At the Bridge: Ch Kahla CD; Ch Keno UD HSAs OA; Ch Kizzy HSAs RE; Ch Tag CD RAE2; Ch Pharra; Bee PT; Ch Red the Dachshund

03-01-2011, 02:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
LuvourGSDs Crowned Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OH Posts: 5,578	Not saying any line can not do this work. I have a West German SL boy that does fairly well, just a big boy. When looking into the world of sables per say, seems many are DDR & Czech. Just wondered I guess of the build on DDR dogs, if too heavy bodied ? I get ya on drives. Me not into very high/high crazy................ ~Thanks~ __________________ ~Jen~ Sable~ GSD 7 yrs. NJP, OJP, NAP, NAJ, NA, TN-N, NAC, NJC, CGC Shadow~ BGSD Adopted 6 yrs. RN, CGC Storm~ GSD 5 yrs. RA, TN-N, CGC Skyrah~ GSD Fun Sable Puppy "Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail."

03-01-2011, 05:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
GSD07 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,763	I think it's a myth that DDR are heavy bodied big headed dump trucks. Sure there are some like that but many are not. My dog is 25.5in/76lb at his 3yo, and as agile as it gets. __________________

03-01-2011, 05:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
AgileGSD Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,645	I have done agility with two Amlines and a West German showline (predominantly WGSL anyway). My Amline girl liked it but wasn't real drivey. My Amline boy was fairly drivey and enjoyed it but was big and had a lot of rear so something were awkward for him. My WGSL was outstanding in terms of drive and ability. She had a much more compact body than either of the Amlines and was absolutely loved agility. People were always surprised by her speed when they first saw her run. I probably would go for a German working line the next time around because I think it would be easier to find what I want in that but the right dog from any line can do well in agility. Just be sure to avoid exaggerations in structure that are common in some lines of show dogs (both American and German). Excessive length and agulation of the rear legs causes jumping and turning issues. Exaggerated roached backs can cause all around awkward movement. Being "down" in the pasterns and/or hocks will also affect the dog's athletic ability. FWIW there is a recent thread in another section about this topic. If I want an agility dog..

03-01-2011, 05:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
GSDElsa Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central, NY Posts: 3,706	I would say small working line female. Elsa LOVES agility, but she isn't super quick. She's about 68 pounds and is built kind of masculine. If I was to ever really want to trial in agility I'd probably go with something a litle finer boned and smaller. __________________ Justine, mom to: - Elsa - BrightStar Rescue - "Da Pookins" - Medo Aritar Bastet - "The Beast From The East"

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