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Laluna 06-12-2014 06:39 PM

Aggression after being attacked
 
My Beauceron (female, 1,5 months) was always friendly towards other dogs and humans. About two months ago, she got attacked by one neurotic GSD just for trying to play with it . Now I have noticed my dog exhibiting the same aggressively-neurotic behavior towards larger dogs. On our daily walks I used to always let her greet and sniff other dogs but after that accident with the GSD she goes into an attack mode almost instantly. Yesterday, I brought her for a play date with another dog, but all she ended up doing was trying to bite that poor bullmastiff in the face. Can it be still fixed and how? I will need to board her for a few days in mid July, and my fear is that she will end up locked up in a cage or get hurt by other dogs. Any good advice would be very helpful. Thanks!

Chip18 06-12-2014 07:09 PM

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...allenging.html

A lot of what you need is in post 8. Stop putting your dog and other peoples dogs at risk! Do read the general "warning" on "Why Dog Parks are a Bad Idea." Save general warning for "meeting other dogs" I just say .."NO."

My policy is not to allow my dogs to interact with "dogs that I do not have control of or know personally are safe!" My dogs don't have problems created by "bad encounters with unknown dogs."

I believe you can fix this...link there on Dog reactive dogs but not if your going to do dog parks or "I thought my dog was friendly folks??"

If you continue to do that then, this will most likely come in handy:
Leerburg | How to Break Up a Dog Fight Without Getting Hurt!

Laluna 06-12-2014 08:45 PM

Chip18, thanks for the reply! The accident with a GSD happened during a group obedience training. I have never brought my dog to a dog park and definitely never will. I will always appreciate FRIENDLY advice on how to get this aggressiveness under control.

canyadoit 06-13-2014 01:07 AM

Find a kennel that just boards gsd
My big male is like that Sometimes the handler can set this off by subconscious tension transmitted to the dog I use a lot of patience in dealing with this
My dogs are always on leash arround any public area unless swimming or in the bush hiking/camping or living in for a few months Love the mountains But them we are well off the beaten track
I go close to dog parks to test the dog and see were we are at with this issue I detest off leash dogs in public areas I fear "it is ok he is friendly" as it charges our way out of any control
My male he came with this issue and in a year he has gotten better He will never get along with strange dogs not in his nature
When I got him a few brawls broke out with my female Two were some messy lots of blood and deep tissue damage on the dogs and myself
I take only dogs that no one wants the unbalanced unmanageable biters the cast offs The more difficult the more fun Been that way for along time now
I believe that some gsd are not dog social at all Imo dog social is a human phrase that have little relevance in the k9 world At times when they have been attacked they become non social with other dogs But I do not see it as a problem just a issue As long as he can pass a dog on the street with out flipping his switch it has been good progress Past that all is good
This is a example of not using a prong collar My experience has taught me it will over stimulate the dog
Hope you get a good conversation going on this Hopefully I may get a key to this puzzling issue

Jax08 06-13-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Laluna (Post 5635114)
My Beauceron (female, 1,5 months) was always friendly towards other dogs and humans. About two months ago, she got attacked by one neurotic GSD just for trying to play with it . Now I have noticed my dog exhibiting the same aggressively-neurotic behavior towards larger dogs. On our daily walks I used to always let her greet and sniff other dogs but after that accident with the GSD she goes into an attack mode almost instantly. Yesterday, I brought her for a play date with another dog, but all she ended up doing was trying to bite that poor bullmastiff in the face. Can it be still fixed and how? I will need to board her for a few days in mid July, and my fear is that she will end up locked up in a cage or get hurt by other dogs. Any good advice would be very helpful. Thanks!

This happened to my girl. I fostered a doberman that would turn on the nearest dog if he felt crowded. It's fear. It's the attitude of "I'll get you before you get me". And every time her snarling, growling, biting drives off another dog she will gain confidence in that action.

It can be fixed. You need to get her around dogs you trust and that she trusts. You'll need some behavior modification. LAT is good. The best advice is to find a good trainer to help you with this.

If you post your location maybe someone can suggest one to you.

Chip18 06-13-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laluna (Post 5635618)
Chip18, thanks for the reply! The accident with a GSD happened during a group obedience training. I have never brought my dog to a dog park and definitely never will. I will always appreciate FRIENDLY advice on how to get this aggressiveness under control.

Yeah a bit different. Dog Park thing is still good give you an idea of what to look oput for!

But you and your guy got caught out in a new and seems to be developing area, my dog got attacked in a dog training class! The commonality in that siltation seems to be free play?

Sucks but regardless it happened so know you have to deal with it. :) The link in post 8 on dealing with a dog reactive dog is a good start. Outside the confinds of a dog park can work but I would try walks in your neighborhood with dogs behinds fences for awhile first.

Also the "Who Pets my Puppy or Dog" I did it for my GSD's "people issues" Dominate Aggressive male. I deem him as such based on his "Rank" drive issues with a follow pack member and the stitches in my hand!

So move on and ignore for people and same with dogs..."nothing to see here dog...move along." When I was done...people issues were gone and I found I he had no dog issues! :) Not a dog park dog and no dog intros, while training!

Then there is this:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...tting-dog.html
Wheres my sanity: Sit on the Dog, aka: The long down

And here in post 8:
http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4200098

DJEtzel 06-13-2014 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax08 (Post 5637530)
This happened to my girl. I fostered a doberman that would turn on the nearest dog if he felt crowded. It's fear. It's the attitude of "I'll get you before you get me". And every time her snarling, growling, biting drives off another dog she will gain confidence in that action.

It can be fixed. You need to get her around dogs you trust and that she trusts. You'll need some behavior modification. LAT is good. The best advice is to find a good trainer to help you with this.

If you post your location maybe someone can suggest one to you.

I agree.

Stop forcing her to meet dogs. She is afraid. She doesn't want to and she isn't acting appropriately. Keep her under threshold where she is confident around them for a while before deciding to introduce strange dogs again.

Chip18 06-13-2014 06:20 PM

When we had to board our two dogs. We told them board together and no playing with other dogs. I worked with them I knew my Boxer was good but...some dogs don't like being punched the face no knocked over! :) Boxer thing..
Walks were fine but no free play! GSD was a least dog "neutral" my Boxer was balanced. But your dog is "now" dog reactive. That's going to take a lot of skill to deal with by someone else, if he is allowed free time with other dogs.

If you have to board I would instruct, "just say no to free play with other dogs" myself.

Laluna 06-13-2014 10:47 PM

It was just a sudden transition from a playful and friendly puppy to an aggressive beast that tries to rip a face off any dog invading her space. It's hard to believe...
You are right, it is something I will have to deal with. Her fearfulness of what the other dog might do triggers the aggressive reaction.

I like the advice I came across somewhere - to put a bite guard on her and expose her to a balanced and friendly dog just hang around. The key is to have faith in her again and not get tense or nervous when she meets another dog - she can sense my fear. When you feel she has played nicely with enough dogs and did not got aggressive you can remove the guard. The good thing is she still loves humans - all of them. You can tried to avoid dogs but you cannot avoid contacts with people.

Laluna 06-13-2014 10:55 PM

Jax08, what is LAT? I live in McPherson, KS, I really doubt I can find this around here. The nearest good dog instructor is about 45 mile drive. That is why i am researching and asking qs on my own. Since you've gone through it and got your dog fixed can you share some tips on dog aggressive behavior modification, please? I realize, a professional help would be ideal. At least, we could get a good start. Thanks!


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