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Old 02-26-2014, 07:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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she has her bones and favorite treats taken away mid-chew,
This, honestly, I do not understand.

You are supposed to be looked up to and trusted by your dog.

How is this getting you respect?
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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This, honestly, I do not understand.

You are supposed to be looked up to and trusted by your dog.

How is this getting you respect?
You are putting human emotions on a dog. They don't look up to or trust us not in the sense that humans trust one another.

You get respect from your dog by being the boss. Consistency IMO is the key.
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This, honestly, I do not understand.

You are supposed to be looked up to and trusted by your dog.

How is this getting you respect?
The dog learns that its okay to have something taken away and they don't bark or growl because of it. I have 5 dogs and I can at any time take things away from them with no problem. I can tell them to drop it, I can put my hands in their mouth, I can take the food bowl away, I can take bones from them, etc. They are like that amongst each other to. That is mandatory in my house. I do have kids that come and go and I am 100% sure that my dogs will never go after or bite any of them. They have learned early on that its not the right way to behave. So yes it is out of respect that mine don't go after anyone that is within my household. I don't even think they would go after a stranger that took their bone away, none of mine are like that at all. They would either walk away or give the sad eyes. I have no fear of my dogs and neither does my family.
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You are putting human emotions on a dog. They don't look up to or trust us not in the sense that humans trust one another.

You get respect from your dog by being the boss. Consistency IMO is the key.
I totally disagree. You risk creating dog aggression by teaching your dog you are not trustworthy.

I have never taken or messed with my dogs while eating and have never had a dog with food aggression. I truly don't understand the "hands in dog bowl" concept.
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You are supposed to be looked up to and trusted by your dog.



How is this getting you respect?

To be perfectly honest, I played with her food and bones and toys after seeing numerous posts about food aggressive dogs, and really was simply trying to be a really good human for this dog...no one in this house, especially the single mom of 4 kids, has time to work a full time job and run around grabbing food and bones from the joy of the house on a regular basis. Guess I was seeing what I was dealing with. And this is why I so rarely post! Thank you Castlemaid for being such a diligent admin, and David Winners for all of your advice and thoughtful posts, I am secretly hoping you will still come and train this dog for me!
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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So if I ask why someone is doing this and what is gained by doing this, I am snarky?
I don't know how else to phrase things so that people don't get offended.
For heaven's sake-- it is like walking on eggshells constantly over here.

Food is a primal thing.

It isn't only a human eating her chocolate cake and having her boss come take it away who would be ticked.

You are taking away high value treats from an animal. In the animal world, the higher members of the pack will never take away a choice morsel once they have let the lower member have it. It just isn't done.

And yes, you do gain respect and trust from dogs. That is why they will deem to listen to you and not the neighbor.
I wonder if this started with the Cesar shows, this taking food away and giving it back.

As a child, I was always taught to leave the dog alone when it is eating. When did this trend of taking food and messing with an eating dog become the thing to do?

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@sunflowers,

When i was growing up my mom always stuck her hands in tips bowl when he was a pup. It was something i did not bother to question but when i grew up and got my first puppy i did it, and that little bugger at 8.5 weeks growled at me and went ape crap bananas, we could not have this behavior it was just not cool. Dexter got over it in a few days. I suppose although there are so many different opinions about things that some may say, by sticking your hands in food or taking a toy away you may be preventing bad bahaviors in the future, they learn that even though there is a hand in the bowl they can continue eating and the world is not going to stop and they dont have to guard it, or they will get that toy back no problem.

Although personally if someone tried to take my choco cake i would stab them with my fork.

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I have no problem with sticking hands in.
I do it too, but I add something. I do not take away. The dog quickly learns that if I am in his food bowl, good things will show up in it.
It only makes sense to me.

I really do not get the taking thing.
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well by taking i dont think anyone means just yanking it out of the dogs mouth, i dont just yank whatever out of anyones mouth but i will give you an example of todays funtimes at my house,
I walked into the florida room and there is my under exercised (i have been busy and he has not seen his regular 5 k runs in 2 days, just leash walks) border collie with the "oh snap you caught me face" with my fiances sons 60.00 snowboarding glasses hanging out of his mouth, i walked over and grabbed the poor plastic arm and said "give me that" and i was not waiting for him to let it go, i just took them. He let them go and proceeded to sulk for the day.
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