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I remember reading that, actually that story is a little hard to forget. I could be wrong, but I am fairly certain Ed Fawley didn't write that, it was a letter to him from someone asking for advice on his web site. I think his advice to the man was that he was an idiot. I think Ed Fawley does use some severe methods when dealing with aggression.....but I am pretty sure it was not him that wrote about hitting a dog with a shovel.
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Interesting. Maybe this is what they mean by having a dog "spade"...

I thought it was, well, something else.
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I remember reading that, actually that story is a little hard to forget. I could be wrong, but I am fairly certain Ed Fawley didn't write that, it was a letter to him from someone asking for advice on his web site. I think his advice to the man was that he was an idiot. I think Ed Fawley does use some severe methods when dealing with aggression.....but I am pretty sure it was not him that wrote about hitting a dog with a shovel.
One reason I really like links to articles, if one is going to quote an article

LOL I just found the reference where the original post here came from and it's on Lou Castle's site - no wonder it sounds fishy and just...bizarre!!!

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Unless, of course, your dog is deaf and/or not hungry at the moment!
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BTW I found the comments on the leerburg site and it's actually someone named "Cindy [a trainer] at Leerburg" who doles out advice, not Ed saying that about the shovel.

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BTW I found the comments on the leerburg site and it's actually someone named "Cindy [a trainer] at Leerburg" who doles out advice, not Ed saying that about the shovel.
Is there a link you can share? Because everything I read on his site had some pretty nasty things done to dogs.


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My dog is 8 months its not new aggression she has been showing. She is aggressive towards old people while on a walk(she has never seen them before) so will see what the trainer has to say about her have an appointment in an hour. I was shocked when I saw that post and many others on leesburg.com it sounds more like animal abuse than training. I think I need to search other sources of info on dog aggression.


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If she gets outta the car carrying as shovel don't answer the door!!!
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The shovel is not a new thing... or a food bowl, Broomstick... people used anything and everything available "back then".
And sadly many sports people still do. I have to say though, that is probably out dated. He leans more to the side of the Michael Ellis style training now. He admits he's made mistakes along the way. And I'm not sticking up for the guy because what I know of him personally, I actually don't like. I used to be on that forum.


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