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Old 11-30-2012, 12:53 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Find a club that isn't afraid of your dog.

People respect my dogs in the clubs I train with, but they aren't freaking out that my dogs might bite them at any time. Well, except one of the newer helpers who was a bit nervous around Deja the first time he worked her. All I did was told him not to slip the sleeve until I was there. Of course I have always been lucky to train with people who knew and worked dogs like ours.
I know Deja can be serious but I can also handle her for show stuff and she doesn't scare me, and part of that confidence is that I know Lisa has control over her dog and would step in well before anyone handling her dog could be at risk. Often I fear dogs because of the owners/handlers, not the dog!!
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mrs k you can get a decent idea though katya seemed pretty real there but hunter would know best since it is his dog.
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mrs k you can get a decent idea though katya seemed pretty real there but hunter would know best since it is his dog.
She was pretty real. I was asking for her to show aggression, then stop, then show aggression again.
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mrs k you can get a decent idea though katya seemed pretty real there but hunter would know best since it is his dog.
Absolutely agree.
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I know Deja can be serious but I can also handle her for show stuff and she doesn't scare me, and part of that confidence is that I know Lisa has control over her dog and would step in well before anyone handling her dog could be at risk. Often I fear dogs because of the owners/handlers, not the dog!!

Yes, often, as Anne as mentioned earlier, the issue is the handlers and not the dogs.
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Yes, often, as Anne as mentioned earlier, the issue is the handlers and not the dogs.
That and dogs will defer to their handler rather than a person they don't have a bond/relationship with.
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Yes, often, as Anne as mentioned earlier, the issue is the handlers and not the dogs.
Tell me about it. All from handler error. All in the last ~3 months or so:

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And I thought, I was torn up...
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #259 (permalink)
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Very informative thread. I had originally been told that Benny was FA, and then Dominant Aggressive. Now I think his behavior is for the most part appropriate.
Benny will also easily react when being stared at, mostly by men. He also reacts when approached slowly. Don't know if he would bite, because I have never let it get to that point. He does not like being touched by strangers, ( neither do I) so I do my best to not allow this. I have seen how remaining very calm and confident helps him tolerate strangers up close talking with me. He just lays down, but stays watchful.

He is extremely good with children, and if he sees a small child crying will want to go and lick their face.
He is protective of his home and pack, including our other dogs and cats. He is definitely my dog, but seems to feel responsible for other family members.

He will also light up easily if stared at by another large male dog, but will ignore little dogs that flip out on him

If we allow a stranger to come in the house he will bark and stay real close to them. I give him a place command and but he keeps and eye on them.

If he is with me at an outdoor event and my husband wanders off with his dog, Benny barks, and get agitated, wanting to keep the pack together.
I do not take him to dog parks, but occasionally we take our dogs to a schoolyard and meet with a few friends and their dogs and Benny is a bit of the "fun police"
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