Possible Food Agression. GSD attacked puppy - Page 3

cliffson1 · 10-19-2012, 04:33 PM

I agree that OP is not a bad owner....they just have too much dog for their situation at present.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 10-19-2012, 04:42 PM

I don't think the OP is a bad owner either, and I'm sorry that's what she took away from the suggestions she's gotten. They have definitely made mistakes with this dog, but we've all made mistakes before.

Misstwixler, I looked up your previous posts and saw that you're here in the SF Bay Area. Can I ask where you went for training or who your trainer was? You can PM me if you'd rather not it post publicly. I know of quite a few good trainers in the area and would be happy to give you some names.

**Cassidy's Mom** · 10-19-2012, 05:24 PM

OP, I sent you a PM!

selzer · 10-19-2012, 05:58 PM

OP, Send Cliff your older puppy. And then vow not to do the same things with they youngster.

Usually, we tend to give the current dog the home, and re-home to the puppy. But you have a dog that has bitten a family member, escapes (only a matter of time before that causes a serious liability), has food aggression/ dog aggression issues, goes berzerk on a lead, and has been trained to bite, somewhat. This is NOT a dog you can just give to the kid down the street that always wanted a GSD.

You have three choices the way I see it:
1, you can rehome the puppy and work with the older dog, with someone who really knows this breed.

2, you can find someone with the experience with this type of dog that is willing to take this dog with full disclosure for all its problems.

3, you can euthanize the dog.

That is just my opinion though, doesn't mean it is correct. Good luck.

codmaster · 10-19-2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selzer

OP, Send Cliff your older puppy. And then vow not to do the same things with they youngster.

Usually, we tend to give the current dog the home, and re-home to the puppy. But you have a dog that has bitten a family member, escapes (only a matter of time before that causes a serious liability), has food aggression/ dog aggression issues, goes berzerk on a lead, and has been trained to bite, somewhat. This is NOT a dog you can just give to the kid down the street that always wanted a GSD.

You have three choices the way I see it:
1, you can rehome the puppy and work with the older dog, with someone who really knows this breed.

2, you can find someone with the experience with this type of dog that is willing to take this dog with full disclosure for all its problems.

3, you can euthanize the dog.

That is just my opinion though, doesn't mean it is correct. Good luck.

OP, listen to her!!!!!!!!!!!!

PatchonGSD · 10-19-2012, 06:36 PM

OP, you are not a bad dog owner. EVERYONE makes mistakes. Please take the advice of rehoming the dog with someone who has experience with the breed. Dont wait until he bites one of your kids, please.

selzer · 10-20-2012, 03:25 PM

I don't know if I was clear enough about something: if you take this dog to a shelter or pound, they will euthanize the dog whether they tell you they will or not, whether it is a kill-shelter or not. They CANNOT adopt out such a dog, and rescues won't take him. It would be MUCH kinder to take him to the vet and euthanize the dog.

I do not WANT for you to euthanize this dog or for this dog to die. But to give this dog to anyone without fully disclosing everything, will make you much more guilty if the dog bites or causes serious injury. If you give the dog to someone who does not have a LOT of experience, it can be really bad, and you will have to judge the person you give him to, because if he wants the dog, he is likely to try to convince you he can handle it, even if he can't, and because you are anxious to find him a home, you might be willing to overlook inexperience.

This is a young dog and the right kind of owner can probably turn him around. But the right kind of owners are few and far-between.

If you rehome the puppy, and get into classes with your dog for about a year, going to class once a week, and working with the dog every day, in a year you might not recognize your dog.

cliffson1 · 10-20-2012, 06:11 PM

The problem is we don't know causation of the dogs issues to be saying where the dog should go. We just know its not working there. The dog could well be a sound solid dog with drive that has been allowed to run amok, and a couple of good sessions in new environment or even at staying there...could change this dog altogether. Or it could be a sharp nervy dog that really needs experienced owners/handlers, or it could be a strong dominant type that needs to have very concrete boundaries. It could be a lot of things, some of which can be fixed pretty easily, others that require strong ownership and constant maintenance. It could be the dog, the owners, or a combination of both....but until that is assessed you really can't say what to do. I have seen many dogs rehome for being too much dog and do well in new place. It's not that rare. You really have to be experienced with these type dogs of aggression to make good decisions.jmo

**Cassidy's Mom** · 10-21-2012, 01:13 PM

I have a very good trainer who could evaluate this dog, but the OP said they've already contacted a rescue to see if they will take him, so I don't know if they will be interested.

Jax08 · 10-21-2012, 01:27 PM

A rescue to take the GSD with a bite history?

10-19-2012, 04:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 27,397	I don't think the OP is a bad owner either, and I'm sorry that's what she took away from the suggestions she's gotten. They have definitely made mistakes with this dog, but we've all made mistakes before. Misstwixler, I looked up your previous posts and saw that you're here in the SF Bay Area. Can I ask where you went for training or who your trainer was? You can PM me if you'd rather not it post publicly. I know of quite a few good trainers in the area and would be happy to give you some names. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 FDCh-G TF-III Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

10-19-2012, 05:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 27,397	OP, I sent you a PM! __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 FDCh-G TF-III Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

10-19-2012, 05:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 20,829	OP, Send Cliff your older puppy. And then vow not to do the same things with they youngster. Usually, we tend to give the current dog the home, and re-home to the puppy. But you have a dog that has bitten a family member, escapes (only a matter of time before that causes a serious liability), has food aggression/ dog aggression issues, goes berzerk on a lead, and has been trained to bite, somewhat. This is NOT a dog you can just give to the kid down the street that always wanted a GSD. You have three choices the way I see it: 1, you can rehome the puppy and work with the older dog, with someone who really knows this breed. 2, you can find someone with the experience with this type of dog that is willing to take this dog with full disclosure for all its problems. 3, you can euthanize the dog. That is just my opinion though, doesn't mean it is correct. Good luck. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC & Babs, CD RA CGC HIC (not AKC) Heidi, RA CGC & Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC & Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly CGC & Bear Gretta Hepzibah

10-19-2012, 06:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
PatchonGSD Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,514	OP, you are not a bad dog owner. EVERYONE makes mistakes. Please take the advice of rehoming the dog with someone who has experience with the breed. Dont wait until he bites one of your kids, please. __________________ Balen Patchon Adopted 8-28-12 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1275860 Failure is success, if you learn from it.

10-20-2012, 03:25 PM	#27 (permalink)
selzer Crowned Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denmark, Ohio Posts: 20,829	I don't know if I was clear enough about something: if you take this dog to a shelter or pound, they will euthanize the dog whether they tell you they will or not, whether it is a kill-shelter or not. They CANNOT adopt out such a dog, and rescues won't take him. It would be MUCH kinder to take him to the vet and euthanize the dog. I do not WANT for you to euthanize this dog or for this dog to die. But to give this dog to anyone without fully disclosing everything, will make you much more guilty if the dog bites or causes serious injury. If you give the dog to someone who does not have a LOT of experience, it can be really bad, and you will have to judge the person you give him to, because if he wants the dog, he is likely to try to convince you he can handle it, even if he can't, and because you are anxious to find him a home, you might be willing to overlook inexperience. This is a young dog and the right kind of owner can probably turn him around. But the right kind of owners are few and far-between. If you rehome the puppy, and get into classes with your dog for about a year, going to class once a week, and working with the dog every day, in a year you might not recognize your dog. __________________ RIP Arwen, CD RN CGC RIP Whitney, RN CGC Jenna, RN CGC & Babs, CD RA CGC HIC (not AKC) Heidi, RA CGC & Tori, RN CGC SG3 Odessa, SchH1, Kkl1, AD Ninja, RN CGC & Milla, RN CGC Joy, Star Puppy, RN CGC Dolly CGC & Bear Gretta Hepzibah

10-19-2012, 04:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,872	I agree that OP is not a bad owner....they just have too much dog for their situation at present.

10-20-2012, 06:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
cliffson1 Crowned Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,872	The problem is we don't know causation of the dogs issues to be saying where the dog should go. We just know its not working there. The dog could well be a sound solid dog with drive that has been allowed to run amok, and a couple of good sessions in new environment or even at staying there...could change this dog altogether. Or it could be a sharp nervy dog that really needs experienced owners/handlers, or it could be a strong dominant type that needs to have very concrete boundaries. It could be a lot of things, some of which can be fixed pretty easily, others that require strong ownership and constant maintenance. It could be the dog, the owners, or a combination of both....but until that is assessed you really can't say what to do. I have seen many dogs rehome for being too much dog and do well in new place. It's not that rare. You really have to be experienced with these type dogs of aggression to make good decisions.jmo

10-21-2012, 01:13 PM	#29 (permalink)
Cassidy's Mom No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 27,397	I have a very good trainer who could evaluate this dog, but the OP said they've already contacted a rescue to see if they will take him, so I don't know if they will be interested. __________________ -Debbie- Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 Forever would have been too short Keefer 8/25/05 Halo 11/9/08 FDCh-G TF-III Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04

10-21-2012, 01:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 19,029	A rescue to take the GSD with a bite history? __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

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