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Old 10-15-2012, 06:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I have a really difficult problem and I don't know how to address it. I got my shepherd Charlee, about 2 years ago, we got him when he was a puppy, we seen him before his eyes were barely opened, and while we held him as a tiny pup, he growled. We didn't think anything of it so we thought it was cute, after he turned eight weeks we brought him home and my neighbor picked him up and Charlee growled and nipped at his face. This same incident happened with another stranger. As he grew older, it got more severe. Hed get off the leash and chase people who were walking down the strear but stop about a meter and a half radious way and bark around them with the fur between his shoulders down his back a bit standing straight up. That's all he ever did, but a few months ago, a man was walking down the street and Charlee lunged and broke his chain and ran at him and started jumping and nipping at the mans coat, but not biting hard. just clacking his teeth. We then decided it was best to keep him tied up out back, then a month after that incident, my neighbot had their toy poodle outside playing, and as I let Charlee outside he seen their dog (Bear) run to go get his own ball his owner threw, and Charlee took off, breaking his leash again and pinned him against my neighbors porch. Bear was okay, hejust had red marks on him, no blood or anything. After that we looked for professionl help and the lady told us that he wasnt aggressive because if he was he would have killed the dog easily, but he didn't and he had five minutes with bear. Its really confusing because I have brought two other dogs into my house in which Charlee would lunge and try to fight them but after an hour or two theyre playing together and kissing. I need some advice on how to address this problem. I do make sure he wears a muzzle whenever he is out as well. Hes the same with people. If you look at him he lunges and tries to bite you (Not me or people he knows well but people he doesn't know well or doesn't know at all) but after a while he will love on you and get over excited when he sees you. Also, Charlee is neutered.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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With the number of times he's broken his leash, the first step I would do is ensure it doesn't happen again. Perhaps fence in your yard or get a run for him. You're lucky those people didn't call by-law. Are you still working with the trainer you got? Finding a good trainer who knows how to deal with this is your best option. Good luck. That must be difficult to deal with so I'm sorry you're going through this.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It sounds like a combination of less than optimum nerves in conjunction with a lack of socialization to the many things out in the world. Their are definitely some insecurity issues, but as you explained when given a couple hours he warmed up to the dogs. You have had him tied up at times....the hair standing straight up with the other elements related screams insecurity as opposed to puppy excitement. Just curious......is your dog Black and Tan?
Anyway, I would get the dog into an obedience class for starters, and maybe the trainer can give some helpful hints.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yep, insercurity for sure. this dog needs alot of work, as do most dogs with insecurity and fear issues.

step one, find a good trainer have him evaluated, step two be ready to commit to ALOT of work. realize there may be set backs, you have to be completely dedicated to putting the time in. also be ready to learn alot about yourself as a leader for this dog.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How were his sire and dam in their behavior towards you when you met them?
This dog needs exercise, positive training to make him more confident, be taken of the chain as it will make any dog crazy and tons and tons of socialization and good association with the world around him; meeting new people every day. Do not put him in situations that he cannot handle.
Also find another trainer who takes his aggression seriously.
It sounds like a very troubled dog that needs a lot of work, so be prepared for this or find him a home that can do this for him.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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easier said than done finding a home for a dog like this. very few would take on this kind of responsibility. its possible with the right connections maybe a trainer or experienced person might take him if the OP can't commit to working with him, but not easy to find.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sounds like genetic weak nerves and as previously stated insecurity. The reason he didnt actually bite severely the dog he pinned and the guy he jumped is because he is very insecure a lot of bark and little bite. This is indeed a form of aggression but its based in fear. This will only get worse, socialize and get hime into classes if you can. He needs his self esteem built up and his respect for you as a leader built up.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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easier said than done finding a home for a dog like this. very few would take on this kind of responsibility. its possible with the right connections maybe a trainer or experienced person might take him if the OP can't commit to working with him, but not easy to find.
Totally agree. A new home needs to be checked out very carefully. Dogs like him run a high risk of ending up abused, put away in a back yard or worse if new owners are not fully committed or bonded to him.
I have had to put down a foster dog like this because she was not safe in society and I felt it was the safest option for the community and the dog. it was a heartbreaking decision and I will never forget her but I don't regret it.
By the way this is not my advice for your dog.
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i look at keeping this dog and commiting to the issues is sort of like having a retarded child. a huge responsibility and a job that really never ends.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Wow I am sorry for you guys. I agree with keeping him and helping him. Be prepared to put in a lot of time and work. Find a good trainer who knows what they are doing. Good luck!
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