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GatorDog · 10-14-2012, 06:45 PM

I don't have any advice for you other than everything you've already heard. I don't typically carry much sympathy for incidents like this. No matter how obnoxious another dog is, there is no excuse for it being mutilated and killed by someone else's pet. I am terribly sorry for all who were involved. This story made me feel nauseated.

I'd go to their house with a blank check and prepare to cough up whatever they ask for. And if you plan on keeping this dog I would keep him confined to your own property until you can get some serious behavioral training done.

**JakodaCD OA** · 10-14-2012, 06:53 PM

I know you feel horrible and I know you'll do the right thing.

It's one reason I HATE INVISIBLE FENCE!

Gretchen · 10-14-2012, 06:56 PM

An unknown future right now is very scary for you. What should you do? Wait until you have calmed down a bit, decisions made under stress often are not the best.

I agree with JaKodaCD and give them a call tomorrow, ask them what you can do to help them out.

Since you said he has nipped at kids (althought not sure where) is a muzzle in order when you go for walks?

myshepharley · 10-14-2012, 07:00 PM

I am just very scared. My neighbor has two small dogs and the one always comes to the fence if our saint is out. They play thru the fence. If harley is out, he always runs over barking. I correct him and he comes right to me. Its hard not to have them out at same time. We both have kids that don't know how to keep them in if told. I don't want another accident happening. I feel like we can't do anything anymore that we have done for all these years. Walking, going to park, pet stores, etc. I don't know how to feel. Just very upset.

Jax08 · 10-14-2012, 07:03 PM

Is he muzzle trained? If not, I would get on that ASAP. And review PA's dangerous dog laws.

0pusX · 10-14-2012, 07:13 PM

I don't know if I would just walk over there and give them a check. I would contact an attorney and see what you need to do to cover yourself.

What I mean is, I would hate for you to go write them a check and then down the road they sue you in civil court and since there was no agreement with the check you wrote, you end up paying them twice.

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myshepharley · 10-14-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jax08

Is he muzzle trained? If not, I would get on that ASAP. And review PA's dangerous dog laws.

I have started looking into this. It gets very very complicated, costly and scary. Thanks for the advice.

Gretchen · 10-14-2012, 07:23 PM

If you decide to keep your dog, I would find a training professional that you like, to help you with your dog's behavior, help build your confidence as a handler, and both of you must get your kids to understand there may be strict rules for your dog and they should respect them too for everyone's sake.

carmspack · 10-14-2012, 07:46 PM

just a terrible thing to experience -- very sorry for all concerned.

Let this be the cautionary tale for all those that rely on an electric fence , whether you want to call it that (which it is) or an i-fence .
You MAY keep your animal in --- but as I said on another very recent thread it does not keep other animals OUT.

This would not have happened if those smaller dogs were safely kept in a large secure , shaded, sheltered , enclosed kennel .

It is the responsibility of all people owning dogs to participate in their safe keeping.

wyominggrandma · 10-14-2012, 07:50 PM

I am curious about something. The family was gone and the dogs were only contained by an electric fence? In the front yard? Or was somebody home at the time of the incedent?
Not that will make a difference because your dog was not under control and killed the little dog, but I guess I question why anyone would leave their dogs, even with an electric fence and collars on the dogs, alone and basically loose in the front yard?
What if a stray dog had come into the yard, crossing over the electric fence and killed the dog or dogs?
It just struck me as odd that anyone would leave their dogs unattended in the front of the house even with collars on. That would not stop a stray from doing exactly what your dog did, you fessed up and are facing the uncertain future, they left their "expensive" breeding dogs pretty much uncontrolled in an unfenced yard.(unless I misunderstood what I read)
Whatever the circumstances, I am sorry this happened to you and your dog, you might be facing a long battle.

10-14-2012, 06:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
GatorDog Knighted Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 2,864	I don't have any advice for you other than everything you've already heard. I don't typically carry much sympathy for incidents like this. No matter how obnoxious another dog is, there is no excuse for it being mutilated and killed by someone else's pet. I am terribly sorry for all who were involved. This story made me feel nauseated. I'd go to their house with a blank check and prepare to cough up whatever they ask for. And if you plan on keeping this dog I would keep him confined to your own property until you can get some serious behavioral training done. __________________ -Alexis Aiden vom HausDaka - (HOT) CGC, TT, IPO1 Carma vom Oz Haus - puppy in training! http://sharpshepherd.wordpress.com//

10-14-2012, 06:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
JakodaCD OA Moderator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Old Lyme, CT USA Posts: 17,516	I know you feel horrible and I know you'll do the right thing. It's one reason I HATE INVISIBLE FENCE! __________________ Diane Danger Danger vom Kleinen Hain aka Masi "Angel" Jakoda's Bewitchen Sami CD OA OAJ OAC NGC OJC RS-O GS-N JS-O TT HIC CGC "Angel" Steinwald's Four x Four CGC HIC TT Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx NA NAJ NAC NJC RS-N JS-N HIC Jakoda's Jagged Edge

10-14-2012, 07:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
myshepharley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 364	I am just very scared. My neighbor has two small dogs and the one always comes to the fence if our saint is out. They play thru the fence. If harley is out, he always runs over barking. I correct him and he comes right to me. Its hard not to have them out at same time. We both have kids that don't know how to keep them in if told. I don't want another accident happening. I feel like we can't do anything anymore that we have done for all these years. Walking, going to park, pet stores, etc. I don't know how to feel. Just very upset. __________________ Harley GSD DOB 05/14/2007

10-14-2012, 07:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jax08 Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NNE PA Posts: 19,009	Is he muzzle trained? If not, I would get on that ASAP. And review PA's dangerous dog laws. __________________ Michelle _________________________________________ Jax Von Monkeybutt, CGC Queen Banshee Boo Sierra the Undecided Cracker, The Great Shedder Rich N Handsome, "Red"

10-14-2012, 06:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gretchen Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California's Central Coast Posts: 1,511	An unknown future right now is very scary for you. What should you do? Wait until you have calmed down a bit, decisions made under stress often are not the best. I agree with JaKodaCD and give them a call tomorrow, ask them what you can do to help them out. Since you said he has nipped at kids (althought not sure where) is a muzzle in order when you go for walks?

10-14-2012, 07:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
0pusX Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: St. Joseph, MI Posts: 71	I don't know if I would just walk over there and give them a check. I would contact an attorney and see what you need to do to cover yourself. What I mean is, I would hate for you to go write them a check and then down the road they sue you in civil court and since there was no agreement with the check you wrote, you end up paying them twice. Sent from my iPhone using PG Free

10-14-2012, 07:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Gretchen Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California's Central Coast Posts: 1,511	If you decide to keep your dog, I would find a training professional that you like, to help you with your dog's behavior, help build your confidence as a handler, and both of you must get your kids to understand there may be strict rules for your dog and they should respect them too for everyone's sake.

10-14-2012, 07:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
carmspack Crowned Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ontario - Posts: 5,518	just a terrible thing to experience -- very sorry for all concerned. Let this be the cautionary tale for all those that rely on an electric fence , whether you want to call it that (which it is) or an i-fence . You MAY keep your animal in --- but as I said on another very recent thread it does not keep other animals OUT. This would not have happened if those smaller dogs were safely kept in a large secure , shaded, sheltered , enclosed kennel . It is the responsibility of all people owning dogs to participate in their safe keeping.

10-14-2012, 07:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
wyominggrandma Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,369	I am curious about something. The family was gone and the dogs were only contained by an electric fence? In the front yard? Or was somebody home at the time of the incedent? Not that will make a difference because your dog was not under control and killed the little dog, but I guess I question why anyone would leave their dogs, even with an electric fence and collars on the dogs, alone and basically loose in the front yard? What if a stray dog had come into the yard, crossing over the electric fence and killed the dog or dogs? It just struck me as odd that anyone would leave their dogs unattended in the front of the house even with collars on. That would not stop a stray from doing exactly what your dog did, you fessed up and are facing the uncertain future, they left their "expensive" breeding dogs pretty much uncontrolled in an unfenced yard.(unless I misunderstood what I read) Whatever the circumstances, I am sorry this happened to you and your dog, you might be facing a long battle.

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