Correction for aggression

GSD246 · 01-26-2012, 12:06 AM

Alright, I had this problem down before. It's back again. So here is the problem.

Running with the dog(on leash) causes her to get aggressive. She was like that as a puppy. I trained it out of her before. However, I was injured so I couldn't run for an entire month. Now all I have is a pulled groin so I can run a little... very little. We have a game class that involves a little running. Every single time I ran with her she would growl and bite me. If I ignored the first one then the second time she would actually lock on to me... she doesn't appear to be playing. The second I stop running I see the calm GSD that I have been raising.

My club will give her a muzzle if they ever see it so I hid it with a quick whisper correction and stopped running. I walked fast when we were suppose to run. Upsetting but overall much better for me as I'm not even suppose to be running now anyway.

The first time I corrected this was simple. I'd run and of course she would try to bite. Over and over I would remind her not to bite me before she actually did and when she didn't in 3 seconds she would get a treat. Then 5 seconds, 10 and so forth. I think I had her around 2 minutes before I dropped the reminders and we just ran without any problems for about a mile or 2.

But now that I can't run that much yet so I can't apply the above method. In other words, either A) everyone stops running with the dog until I'm well enough to correct or B) find another way of correcting it.

I had almost forgotten how bad my dog was with aggression when I first brought her home. I will never know why she was like this. Would really love to know. Oh well, it is what it is. If I'm not giving any suggestions then I'll work it out of her when I'm well enough to actually do it.

Shavy · 01-26-2012, 02:01 AM

Are you sure you're not just triggering her prey drive and causing her to see you as a partner in a game of chase?

GSD246 · 01-26-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shavy

Are you sure you're not just triggering her prey drive and causing her to see you as a partner in a game of chase?

I'm not sure. I'd even be willing to say that might be it. But being that aggressive towards me hurts and isn't something I want to happen whenever we run.

Emoore · 01-26-2012, 10:23 AM

I think it's more of a herding behavior, but whatever it is you want it stopped.

I think you know how to correct it, but I don't think you can correct a dog for biting while running if you can't run.

If I were you I'd shelve running for a little while until you're healed. The dog doesn't run with anyone until you're healed up and ready to run with her again. You and she can both get exercise another way. Then when you're healed up and ready to go, you can address it the same way you did last time.

kiya · 01-26-2012, 10:40 AM

Without seeing what your dog is doing it's really hard to say if it is really aggression.
Honestly it sounds like what my girl, Lakota does when she gets excited. She's trys to "engage" me in play. When I started taking her out with the bike she would try to bite my foot or the tire. Sometimes she'll grab the leash and try to play tug. Of course this is not what I want so I would stop and tell her "out" if she was gabbing the leash. Once she let go & stopped her antics we proceed. If your dog is vocal it may sound aggressive. How old is your dog?

ZenCloud · 01-27-2012, 12:06 AM

It is likely to be prey drive being stimulated by the run. Even if its not the answer is the same, get a muzzle (cheap is fine) and run the dog in muzzle. If she appears to be "aggressive" towards you correct her immediately and then CONTINUE to run. This is an easy game to win here.

If you don't want to muzzle your dog have a partner help, hook two leashes up and do not allow her to reach either runner. When the dog becomes aggressive the helper can give a leash correction as you give a verbal correction as you CONTINUE to run.

Z

Bismarck · 01-30-2012, 02:56 AM

yeah, sounds like she's playing with you.

ever see 2 dogs that are great with each other go for a run/jog?
i take my dog, and my foster dog out for a bit, and they'll go at each other, eventually i let them know they've had enough play, and it's time for the run/jog.
you didn't mention that you had to go to the hospital, so if you don't have huge holes in your arm, she's just playing with you.
i'd work on her basic commands until you're healed. sit, down, especially leave it.

imo, leave it is one of the greatest commands you can teach them. it transfers over to just about anything, including you.
what kind of collar do you use while out for a walk/jog/run ?

Mrs.K · 01-30-2012, 02:58 AM

How old is the dog?

MustLoveGSDs · 01-30-2012, 03:16 AM

I think you could channel that drive by Schutzhund training! Sounds like she could benefit from a job!

01-26-2012, 12:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
GSD246 New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 19	Correction for aggression Alright, I had this problem down before. It's back again. So here is the problem. Running with the dog(on leash) causes her to get aggressive. She was like that as a puppy. I trained it out of her before. However, I was injured so I couldn't run for an entire month. Now all I have is a pulled groin so I can run a little... very little. We have a game class that involves a little running. Every single time I ran with her she would growl and bite me. If I ignored the first one then the second time she would actually lock on to me... she doesn't appear to be playing. The second I stop running I see the calm GSD that I have been raising. My club will give her a muzzle if they ever see it so I hid it with a quick whisper correction and stopped running. I walked fast when we were suppose to run. Upsetting but overall much better for me as I'm not even suppose to be running now anyway. The first time I corrected this was simple. I'd run and of course she would try to bite. Over and over I would remind her not to bite me before she actually did and when she didn't in 3 seconds she would get a treat. Then 5 seconds, 10 and so forth. I think I had her around 2 minutes before I dropped the reminders and we just ran without any problems for about a mile or 2. But now that I can't run that much yet so I can't apply the above method. In other words, either A) everyone stops running with the dog until I'm well enough to correct or B) find another way of correcting it. I had almost forgotten how bad my dog was with aggression when I first brought her home. I will never know why she was like this. Would really love to know. Oh well, it is what it is. If I'm not giving any suggestions then I'll work it out of her when I'm well enough to actually do it.

01-26-2012, 10:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Emoore Crowned Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North DFW, TX Posts: 9,209	I think it's more of a herding behavior, but whatever it is you want it stopped. I think you know how to correct it, but I don't think you can correct a dog for biting while running if you can't run. If I were you I'd shelve running for a little while until you're healed. The dog doesn't run with anyone until you're healed up and ready to run with her again. You and she can both get exercise another way. Then when you're healed up and ready to go, you can address it the same way you did last time. __________________ Rocky vom Backyard- 10 years young Kopper vom Felssclucht Bach - 17 months At the Bridge: Cash van der Animal Shelter 2006-2010

01-26-2012, 10:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
kiya Elite Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,902	Without seeing what your dog is doing it's really hard to say if it is really aggression. Honestly it sounds like what my girl, Lakota does when she gets excited. She's trys to "engage" me in play. When I started taking her out with the bike she would try to bite my foot or the tire. Sometimes she'll grab the leash and try to play tug. Of course this is not what I want so I would stop and tell her "out" if she was gabbing the leash. Once she let go & stopped her antics we proceed. If your dog is vocal it may sound aggressive. How old is your dog? __________________ Carolyn Apache - Shiloh Shepherd 12/15/02 Kiya - Shiloh Shepherd 5/15/04 Lakota - WGSD 1/13/10 Last edited by kiya; 01-26-2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason: sp

01-30-2012, 03:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
MustLoveGSDs Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 1,381	I think you could channel that drive by Schutzhund training! Sounds like she could benefit from a job! __________________ http://www.secondchanceshepherds.org/index.html "If you don't train them, don't blame them" Zelda(husky), Optimus Prime(doberman),Rogue(BGSD)

01-26-2012, 02:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Shavy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 208	Are you sure you're not just triggering her prey drive and causing her to see you as a partner in a game of chase?

01-27-2012, 12:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
ZenCloud New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4	It is likely to be prey drive being stimulated by the run. Even if its not the answer is the same, get a muzzle (cheap is fine) and run the dog in muzzle. If she appears to be "aggressive" towards you correct her immediately and then CONTINUE to run. This is an easy game to win here. If you don't want to muzzle your dog have a partner help, hook two leashes up and do not allow her to reach either runner. When the dog becomes aggressive the helper can give a leash correction as you give a verbal correction as you CONTINUE to run. Z

01-30-2012, 02:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bismarck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 399	yeah, sounds like she's playing with you. ever see 2 dogs that are great with each other go for a run/jog? i take my dog, and my foster dog out for a bit, and they'll go at each other, eventually i let them know they've had enough play, and it's time for the run/jog. you didn't mention that you had to go to the hospital, so if you don't have huge holes in your arm, she's just playing with you. i'd work on her basic commands until you're healed. sit, down, especially leave it. imo, leave it is one of the greatest commands you can teach them. it transfers over to just about anything, including you. what kind of collar do you use while out for a walk/jog/run ?

01-30-2012, 02:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mrs.K Crowned Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6,377	How old is the dog?

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