I admit to not knowing much about table training , so , inspired by this thread http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/schutzhund-ipo-training/452162-dogs-nerves.html
went on a discovery route.
my experience with a table was for teaching a dog "positions" so that the dog didn't creep forward .
I can see the benefits of the round table for prey agitation , handler present - nothing worse for the decoy than to have some handler who doesn't post , who keeps drifting closer and closer .
Here is what we have , Gene England who is credited with developing this as a training aide Building a bond - Bowling Green Daily News: Local News
then this dog being worked , clearly overwrought . What happened prior to the tape . Was the decoy good . Was it necessary to prolong the dogs distress . Could the decoy properly read the dog . Should the decoy have given the dog some power over the situation by moving back ? Should the chain have been longer to allow the dog to move forward more ? Was the dogs action training failures, genetics , a mix of both?
Why select this tape to show a dog as strong -- once again down to reading and understanding a dog.
http://databasepedigree.com/videos/510/bruno-vom-wallensener-hof
My concern , as stated in the England link is that every one is sort of inventing their own versions of tables and unskilled weakend warrior type (my words) helpers are mashing away at dogs without understanding or reading them. (I'll have to iron this thought out later). In short , good decoys are hard to find .
Hunter's contribution , same thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ2NYQkGG_M
in this set up , the dog has support of handler, is given permission to get into fight , which he enjoys , and is not stressed by , and you see the progression of increased confidence in power and fight with each session.
I would be interested in hearing thoughts on this.
went on a discovery route.
my experience with a table was for teaching a dog "positions" so that the dog didn't creep forward .
I can see the benefits of the round table for prey agitation , handler present - nothing worse for the decoy than to have some handler who doesn't post , who keeps drifting closer and closer .
Here is what we have , Gene England who is credited with developing this as a training aide Building a bond - Bowling Green Daily News: Local News
then this dog being worked , clearly overwrought . What happened prior to the tape . Was the decoy good . Was it necessary to prolong the dogs distress . Could the decoy properly read the dog . Should the decoy have given the dog some power over the situation by moving back ? Should the chain have been longer to allow the dog to move forward more ? Was the dogs action training failures, genetics , a mix of both?
Why select this tape to show a dog as strong -- once again down to reading and understanding a dog.
http://databasepedigree.com/videos/510/bruno-vom-wallensener-hof
My concern , as stated in the England link is that every one is sort of inventing their own versions of tables and unskilled weakend warrior type (my words) helpers are mashing away at dogs without understanding or reading them. (I'll have to iron this thought out later). In short , good decoys are hard to find .
Hunter's contribution , same thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ2NYQkGG_M
in this set up , the dog has support of handler, is given permission to get into fight , which he enjoys , and is not stressed by , and you see the progression of increased confidence in power and fight with each session.
I would be interested in hearing thoughts on this.