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Old 01-09-2014, 02:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
DJEtzel
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I didn't read your entire post. I stopped after the first two paragraphs.

I love shock collars as a training tool and have used them for some very rough cases. I hate your views on them, though, and do not think you use them safely whatsoever and would never trust someone with your views to train a dog.
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