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Old 01-09-2014, 03:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Everyone is against using them as training tools" is an incorrect statement. Lots of trainers and handler/dog teams use them.
"An excess of size is an unserviceable feature for breeding, his powers of endurance, his speed and the smartness of his movements suffer in all circumstances. Giants are never nimble."-Creator of GSD
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