Originally Posted by Kaun
Yes, that reminds me of another method I know of where;
stay = wait for me to come back to you, and
wait = wait until I tell you to do something else
This is how I was "trained to train", and I find it useful. When I put a dog in a stay I have no problem with him not keeping his full attention on me. So long as he doesn't move he's welcome to watch the clouds if he wants. I consider it a relaxed state. When I put a dog in a wait I expect him to watch me carefully for the next command and be in an active, alert state.
What bugs me the most is when people tell their dogs to 'stay' with no intention of requiring them to actually stay. Like when they head out the door for work and say "Fido, STAY" when they actually mean "Fido, don't follow me out the door". There's no way they can expect that dog to hold a position on the other side of the door for an 8 hour workday. Then they're confused when the dog only holds a 'stay' command for 30 seconds and hops up during training!