Originally Posted by Jarkko
My dog doesn't out properly when in high drive. He outs quite nicely in lower drive, like when I'm tugging with him or playing with ball. But when we do some workouts with a helper, he gets so excited that he doesn't out. I've been told to use harsh corrections, but I believe he would bite me for doing that. The problem is that I've never really used any harsh corrections and starting that now with a 10 months old would be a major change in the "rules".
So I've been thinking that is it possible to teach out with toy exchange or similar game so that it really transfers to high-drive situations like IPO manwork? Is that even possible?
When a dog is in a high state of drive, a correction is hardly felt anyway, so it needs to be firm to get thru to the brain.
Has your dog redirected back to you before?
If my dog won't out, the helper will hold a tab on the prong collar(attached under the chin) and do the correcting after the command to out.
When the correction to out is a pull forward, not a check back by the handler it usually is very effective(the handler has line pressure holding the dog back on harness or flat collar) Dog learns fast that out means out. And outing is rewarded with another bite. Usually only one or two sessions will make it clear to the dog that out means out, even if the helper is still moving or can't lock up because the dog is still trying to control him.