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I dont think he harmed her, shes not soft. He demoed it on me and at 1,2,3 it made my hand muscle flex involuntarily, At 4 I could feel the buzz. But my girl is on a positive reinforcement as a puppy, we may transition to an ecollar but he was goofy putting it on a perfectly behaved, food driven, 13 week old puppy. He ensured me that sit means sit is the best ecollar training?
I viewed my breeders shutz class, and it turned me off to ecollar. The trainers dogs ecollar went dead, and he resorted to hitting his snout with the handle of the whip??? I got the impression that he uses the ecollar constantly and lets off the stimulus when the dog bites as a reward? It turned me off of his group.