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Muskeg · 01-02-2013, 05:18 PM

I train for reliability off leash first and foremost and am working hard with my youngest dog, a malinois. I like the description of the course, but it sounds like Khoeler methods- praise and corrections. Scotch Pines Dog Training

Quote from website: "At Scotch Pines, we believe that true obedience must extend beyond the 6 foot leash. Gates get left open, leashes slip, and even in your own backyard. REAL LIFE is off-leash. Our goal is to instill off-leash reliability, regardless of the distractions. To test our training, we bring a rabbit, goat, raw hamburger, and cat food to class. Your dog’s greatest distraction is other dogs, so a group class, with up to 30 dogs and handlers, provides an ideal setting for him to learn to listen to YOU no matter what the circumstances. We train for serious obedience, but you and your dog will have fun. It requires hard work and perseverance but the reward is incredible! 9 weeks is a short time compared to the life of your dog! If you love your dog make the commitment to help him live up to his potential as an obedient, trustworthy companion." END QUOTE

I tend to agree with some of this- in real life I don't always have treats, or e-collars fail or aren't fitted just right or the battery dies in the cold (or doesn't last for a two week backpacking trip) and so on. My first goals with my dogs is to have solid off-leash OB, but I do and have used treats, markers, and e-collars (Lou Castle's methods or plain aversion for dangerous wildlife).

Ideally, someone on here has taken a class and can tell me their experiences. I am a bit worried that this is all about corrections and uses really old school methods, but I'm intrigued.

Anyone familiar with the trainer and program? They'll be offering a course here in January.

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Muskeg Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Igloo Posts: 111	Scotch Pines Dog Training- thoughts or experiences? I train for reliability off leash first and foremost and am working hard with my youngest dog, a malinois. I like the description of the course, but it sounds like Khoeler methods- praise and corrections. Scotch Pines Dog Training Quote from website: "At Scotch Pines, we believe that true obedience must extend beyond the 6 foot leash. Gates get left open, leashes slip, and even in your own backyard. REAL LIFE is off-leash. Our goal is to instill off-leash reliability, regardless of the distractions. To test our training, we bring a rabbit, goat, raw hamburger, and cat food to class. Your dog’s greatest distraction is other dogs, so a group class, with up to 30 dogs and handlers, provides an ideal setting for him to learn to listen to YOU no matter what the circumstances. We train for serious obedience, but you and your dog will have fun. It requires hard work and perseverance but the reward is incredible! 9 weeks is a short time compared to the life of your dog! If you love your dog make the commitment to help him live up to his potential as an obedient, trustworthy companion." END QUOTE I tend to agree with some of this- in real life I don't always have treats, or e-collars fail or aren't fitted just right or the battery dies in the cold (or doesn't last for a two week backpacking trip) and so on. My first goals with my dogs is to have solid off-leash OB, but I do and have used treats, markers, and e-collars (Lou Castle's methods or plain aversion for dangerous wildlife). Ideally, someone on here has taken a class and can tell me their experiences. I am a bit worried that this is all about corrections and uses really old school methods, but I'm intrigued. Anyone familiar with the trainer and program? They'll be offering a course here in January.