[DCluver33]

I've seen both shows and I like both of them, but do I agree with everything they do? of course not. I generally don't like "alpha rolling" my dogs, but in some circumstances I've had to, like sunday night when Dodger attacked my cat I had to roll him on his side in order to keep him from going after her again once I got him off her, was there another way to get him off her? I'm sure, but in that time the first thing that popped in my head to keep him from going after her and tell him that that's not ok was to put him on his side. I don't like the tapping that Cesar does, but I've had to do it to remind my dogs to keep focused on me and not what they were focused on because a verbal saying didn't work and let me make myself clear I never ever kick or hit my dogs i just give then a light tap with my foot or hand if they really need it and nothing else is working. I agree with some of the other posters here that Victoria is a little too preachy. I've used things from both trainers and they've all worked. I like to use a mix of both because they get the positive and the discipline. But everyone and every dog is different some dogs may respond better to Cesar's style and some may respond better to Victoria's style. To me it's what ever the dog responds better to then that's what you use.