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Originally Posted by AbbyK9
I'll have to agree with selzer. There are positives to be learned both from Cesar and from Victoria, probably more so from their more recent episodes - Cesar has calmed down on the forced submission some and Victoria has become more open to concepts such as crating - than from their earlier episodes.
If I had to pick one over the other, however, that would be a hard choice to make, because I don't agree with either one 100%. I feel that they are both, in their own way, very one-sided. Victoria is all about positive-all-the-time and Cesar is very force-all-the-time in their training approach. I don't think either approach is well-balanced.
IMHO dogs need a positive-only phase when they are learning a new command, but once a command is learned, and proofed, there comes a phase of correction when the dog chooses not to follow the command. I don't think you can be all-positive or all-correction and get a balanced dog out of it. There needs to be positive AND corrections in the different phases of training. That's what I think, anyway, and how I train.
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I also agree with Selzer, and with the additional comments above. Milan
may work in some cases with dogs that have serious issues, but he's not for the average dog owner. But he makes great TV.
Haven't seen Victoria, but I did read one of her books. I found it to be very basic and probably best for extreme newbie dog owners.
Like was said, both training methods contain bits of useful information. My feeling is that the owner must read books every different type of training method by various authors, then pick and choose which techniques work for the unique combination of you and your dog. There are so many variables in each relationship that a single training style probably won't exactly fit any given dog-owner partnership.
That said, if I had to cast a vote in favor of Milan vs. Stillwell, I'd go with Stillwell.