[selzer]

I prefer Victoria Stillwell over Ceasar Millan.

Victoria comes from England and used to be anti crate, etc. Since she has been in America, I have seen her suggest a crate. But that is such a tiny part of the whole thing. I think Victoria tries to find techniques that will work with the totally insane people she is working with, and those techniques continue to be positive.

Ceasar Millan was an illegal alien, and started out as groomer. Where he comes from, dogs were dogs and people were people. True. Dogs lived outside and new their place. He also deals with the dregs of society and their totally wacked out dogs. I disagree with some of what he does. I have seen him deal with some seriously aggressive dogs, and some of them he just has to keep because they may be ok with him, but they are unable to be put back with the family. His motto is basically, exercise the poop out of them, project your confidence and energy, and rule the universe often putting dogs together and then making them lie on their side with the dogs they are afraid of.

I find this unreasonable.

I read both of their books, and in both are gems and in both are huey. I think Victoria buys into the speuter crap too much. If you are writing a book about training, stick to training and leave the political speuter crap out of it. Ceasar's book is inspirational in that it is a rags to riches story, but much of what he says, treat dogs like dogs, and exercise them, is just common sense.

I actually like Patricia McConnel better than either of these, but she does not have a TV show.