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Quote by DogGone: "I’ve heard many people claim that they don’t need to Alpha roll their dog. However the vast majority of them are unruly and unsafe and dangerous. Not all dogs are the same so not all dogs require the same type of training and discipline. I think you are likely to be like many others and are simply in denial.
　
I’ve had many idiots in denial, lecture me about using alpha rolls, and the use of shock collars. Yet my dog is relatively obedient, intelligent, mentally stable, friendly, and brave; yet their dogs are food/water/toy aggressive, run away, disobedient, fearful, dominant, runs out in traffic, chases traffic and pedestrians, chases animals without permission, etc…. Yet almost every time their dog is getting into trouble they blame someone else instead of their dog and themselves. These idiots like to make up stupid rules; like balls and Frisbees shouldn’t be at the dog park; dogs shouldn’t run, bark and wrestle at a dog park. They insist that no other dogs go near their dog when their dog is drinking; because they allow their dog to be water aggressive; since they are denial they tried to shift the blame onto other people so it’s your fault if their dog becomes water aggressive. These types of people are nurturing bad behavior and are enabling dangerous situations."

Ever think that maybe your dog is "relatively obedient, intelligent, mentally stable, friendly, and brave" inspite of poor training methods. Not everyone who does not use shock collars or alpha rolls have dogs that are "food/water/toy aggressive, run away, disobedient, fearful, dominant, runs out in traffic, chases traffic and pedestrians, chases animals without permission, etc…."

I think that dogs have different levels of temperament, some have serious issues, others require different management, but to suggest that people who use positive reinforcement and training techniques that do not include physically challenging and overpowering the dog or aids in correcting/punishing the dog, are in denial and have dogs that have serious issues is just wrong.

People who use any method of training can screw that method up, whether the method includes shocking or alpha rolling, or clickers, or praise and treats. So some people trying to do positive reinforcement mess that up, just as people who use alpha rolls mess that up. It has something to do with the handler's ability to do the right thing and the right time, their patience, their persistance.