Originally Posted by APBTLove
The list of 'formidable' breeds is endless... And the complete mutts, heinz 57's? they can look pretty intimidating and be strong as a bull... Everything from Cattle dogs to danes to beagles. Yes, beagles. Friend of mine's beagle very nearly killed their westie, imagine if it was a small child, not a tough breed of dog meant for tenacity he was after?
One of the few dogs that have made me truly uneasy was a pair of labs, Sarge and Abby, I think - they left an impression - pure bred chocolate labs. They were so vicious to strangers I pulled mace out any time I passed their home, because they would go insane, even biting the fencing 20' away form me out of frustration at not being able to get at me. Luckily the day they got out I had my own pair of dogs, my GSDs... And those dogs curred out as soon as my two got a hold on them, their owner had to come get them because they wouldn't let us walk, they were circling and darting in every now and then. This was a wealthy man and his family... not some lowly criminal.
I agree that people with animal cruelty charges shouldn't be allowed to own animals, but that has nothing to do with BSL. Other criminal things, even human on human violence, should not come into play with dogs. One of my family members has a record, mostly vehicle charges, but others including taking it too far when he got into fights with other people... he rents a home, he's not very responsible when it comes to his money or other things.. He owns two dogs himself and a leopard gecko and I wouldn't put them in anyone else's home. He has them contained, exercised, fed and medically cared for, not to mention the abundance of training and love he has in them.
You have murders in jail who train and care for animals so they can be placed. I almost adopted a GSD pup from one such place.
And as for what makes a person responsible? I can say that people who are irresponsible when it comes to keeping their car in good shape or paying bills, or keeping a tidy place are not necessarily going to treat a life the same. The old homeless man I spoke of earlier is a much better dog owner than the guy down the road with three cars, his own home, extra cash, no record and two dogs.
I have a friend who lives in one of those communities that do not allow fencing, pools, or weeds in your garden lol and she would be not be able to build a kennel as suggested, nor a tie-out. She's have to walk her dog out for bathroom needs or exercise... She rents the home and is Section 8. Yet she does her part and cares for her family and pets well.
Income, record, location... These do not really come into play when it comes to owning an animal. I know that my animals come first, I've gone hungry days to feed them, my animals are never loose, never had AC come to my home because of a complaint, I live next to the projects and in a crapy neighborhood. I probably would not meet the standards for some dog-ownership-control project...
Here is a list of some dogs... who, by size alone can be dangerous, but also because of what work they are bred for, should be included as pit bull dogs, German Shepherds, and rotties would be for an ownership control idea..
American Bully
Akita
Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog
Anatolian Shepherd
Caucasian Mountain Dog
Dogue de Bordeaux
Great Dane
Great Pyrenees
Greater Swiss Mountian Dog
Irish Wolfhound
Kuvasz
English Mastiff
Neopolitian Mastiff
Newfoundland
Saint Bernard
Scottish Deerhound
Tibetan Mastiff
American Staffordshire Terrier
American Bulldog
American Water Spaniel
Australian Cattle Dog
Basset Hound
Bearded Collie
Border Collie
Brittany Spaniel
Bulldogs(there are many english bulldog like breeds)
Old English Bulldog
Canaan Dog
Chinese Shar-Pei
Chow Chow
English Springer Spaniel
Field Spaniel
Harrier
Keeshond
Kerry Blue Terrier
Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever
Pharoah Hound
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier
Standard Poodle
Standard Schnauzer
Sussex Spaniel
Welsh Springer Spaniel
Afghan Hound
Airedale Terrier
Alaskan Malamute
American Foxhound
American Pit Bull Terrier
Australian Shepherd
Beauceron
Belgian Malanois
Belgian Sheepdog
Belgian Tervuren
Bernese Mountain Dog
Black and Tan Coonhound
Black Russian Terrier
Bloodhound
Borzoi
Bouvier des Flandres
Boxer
Briard
Bullmastiff
Bull Terrier
Cane Corso
Chesapeake Bay Retriever
Collie
Curly Coated Retriever
Dalmation
Doberman
English Foxhound
English Setter
Flat Coated Retriever
German Shepherd
German Shorthaired Pointer
German Wirehaired Pointer
Giant Schnauzer
Golden Retriever
Gordon Setter
Greyhound
Ibizian Hound
Irish Setter
Irish Water Spaniel
Komondor
Labrador Retriever
Leonberger
Old English Sheepdog
Otterhound
Pointer
Plott Hound
Portuguese Water Dog
Redbone Coonhound
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Rottweiler
Saluki
Samoyed
Siberian Husky
Spinone Italiano
Tosa Inu
Vizsla
Weimaraner
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon
There are many more dog breeds who are big, tenacious, tough, or intimidating that I do not have time to list... If you say guardian, fighting, hunting, or large breeds should be regulated...
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