[LouCastle]

Originally Posted by just another truck

The owner would shoot her with a BB gun when she didnt come, probably no different then hitting them with a shock collar

Either you've never been shot with a BB gun or you've never felt the stim from an Ecollar at the level that you first perceive it, where all the basic work is done. Nearly universally people who feel this describe it as a "buzz, a tingle," or" a tap." Children giggle.

I've been shot by a BB gun. I hope never to repeat that experience. I test my Ecollars on myself every day before I put them on the dogs.