Samba, there's is a huge difference b/w reasoned disagreement & the bash&trash crud that proliferates in these threads. Criticism is one thing. All breeds (IMO) benefit from impassioned discussions about what is best or right for the breed. The GS needs such discussions as much as most breeds. However, piling on with misinformation, inaccuracies, innuendo & gross generalizations is not at all the same thing.
Oversized dogs are outside the standard. Period. They are not necessarily fat, lazy, clumsy, inept, unhealthy, short lived, prone to HD, weak nerved, excessively soft or incapable of working. Nor were they always outside the standard.
For numerous reasons, both practical & aesthetic, many people including myself, find these GS attractive & desirable. Trashing&Bashing doesn't change that. Most members who prefer the oversized GS either fade away to friendlier corners of the board or all too often leave entirely. Now that's sad & (IMO) accomplishes very little. Perhaps others disagree.
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