Time to give it a rest, Lou. Selzer took the higher road and tried to disengage. Why not try to do the same. The value of what you contribute to e-collar training and information, at least on the forum here, really gets so lost and diminished when you go on these continued attacks like this, it's ridiculous. Maybe in your world, you're enlightening folks in this manner but to the reader, it just looks like you're going on (another) back and forth attack. JMHO.
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