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Originally Posted by selzer
They do not ever try to go beyond that wire, they respect it because they do not like being zapped.
I do not feel that is cruel because it is visible. The dog knows to stay away from it.
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Ha! This is the ultimate hypocrisy, a zap is a zap. Many dogs also know when the collar is on, no different than "seeing" a fence. You must feel it's a pretty evil tool to use for
one afternoon to justify kenneling a dog for it's lifetime!
P.S. I have seen these "mild" little solar fences kill birds and squirrels.
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Originally Posted by selzer
But as I said, there is no converting me on this. But I am not asking for them to be banned. I do not understand why people think that if you are not in favor of them, you are wrong and must be converted.
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I'm not trying to convert anyone, I don't really care how others train, I only care when I see more ignorant legislation coming down the pike inspired by ignorant people like this Facebook nonsense. I think it just gets tiresome how those who have such visceral hate for these tools are so unbalanced about them, using such words as "violent", "frying", "torture" etc, espousing the moral high ground while hesitantly & condescendingly accepting the fact that there are still portions of the unwashed masses who use such "primitive" training tools.